AonDoor he/him Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 I didn't find anything else about this on here, so I'm proposing this idea. I can see painrials being used as taser-like weapons for law-enforcement officers and maybe even self-defense tools for regular people in the future. What do you think? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne's Unlucky Hat he/him Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 Yes this sounds like a good idea but they will need to figure out how to direct it to a single person or innocents will feel pain as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration he/him Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 59 minutes ago, SandersonFan123 said: Yes this sounds like a good idea but they will need to figure out how to direct it to a single person or innocents will feel pain as well. That's already been made. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne's Unlucky Hat he/him Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 Oh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, SandersonFan123 said: Yes this sounds like a good idea but they will need to figure out how to direct it to a single person or innocents will feel pain as well. Yeah, like Frustration said. Handheld painrials that only work on contact should work, Navani even used a painrial like that in OB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sibling she/her Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 when I think of this I just see Darcy from Thor destroying Thor with a painrial instead of a taser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AonDoor he/him Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 19 hours ago, SandersonFan123 said: Oh There are painrials called pain knives that only affect the other person, but the drawback to that is it actually harms the person, unlike a taser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne's Unlucky Hat he/him Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, AonDoor said: There are painrials called pain knives that only affect the other person, but the drawback to that is it actually harms the person, unlike a taser. Yes, and they have no range and that destroys the purpose of a Taser. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AonDoor he/him Posted March 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, SandersonFan123 said: Yes, and they have no range and that destroys the purpose of a Taser. They'll get there eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, AonDoor said: There are painrials called pain knives that only affect the other person, but the drawback to that is it actually harms the person, unlike a taser. I mean, there are painrials that require contact and don't harm the person. Navani used them. Put some needles for contact onto a gun and you have a taser that works very similarly to our tasers. Except they're probably more painful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primeival Chaos he/him Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 DId you know that there's a type of painrial that uses a tube, a ball, and gunpowder? That deals damage along with pain though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, Primeval Chaos said: DId you know that there's a type of painrial that uses a tube, a ball, and gunpowder? That deals damage along with pain though Now that's patently ridiculous. Roshar doesn't have gunpowder . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primeival Chaos he/him Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Nameless said: Now that's patently ridiculous. Roshar doesn't have gunpowder . Oh. That's my bad. I guess I was thinking of something else. Wonder what it could be . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne's Unlucky Hat he/him Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Primeval Chaos said: DId you know that there's a type of painrial that uses a tube, a ball, and gunpowder? That deals damage along with pain though Yeah maybe a spring could work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AonDoor he/him Posted March 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 7:19 PM, SandersonFan123 said: Yeah maybe a spring could work Like a dollar store painrial? I bet parents will be thrilled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne's Unlucky Hat he/him Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, AonDoor said: Like a dollar store painrial? I bet parents will be thrilled. Yeah they would buy them for all their kids 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primeival Chaos he/him Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 17 hours ago, SandersonFan123 said: Yeah they would buy them for all their kids Not needing a gemstone only makes it cheaper! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration he/him Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 Painrails are too easy to make for regualr people to not have them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 49 minutes ago, Frustration said: Painrails are too easy to make for regualr people to not have them. Are they? The gemstone with a painspren shouldn't be too hard to make, but the fabrial cage seems like it would be complicated to make. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration he/him Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nameless said: Are they? The gemstone with a painspren shouldn't be too hard to make, but the fabrial cage seems like it would be complicated to make. It would take some know how, but it's just wires, even if it's not common anyone who wanted one could make it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomander Rake he/him Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Nameless said: Are they? The gemstone with a painspren shouldn't be too hard to make, but the fabrial cage seems like it would be complicated to make. In Roshar's current state, maybe too complex for them to be widespread among normal people. As they start to industrialize and mass produce, most fabrials will probably cheap af unless restricted by a rare material, or by some super complicated or time consuming process that only a few people can do (bondsmiths, fullborn, etc) Edited March 14, 2022 by Anomander Rake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Frustration said: It would take some know how, but it's just wires, even if it's not common anyone who wanted one could make it. Sure. In the same way that anyone could make a simple computer if they wanted. Most people won't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration he/him Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Nameless said: Sure. In the same way that anyone could make a simple computer if they wanted. Most people won't. That's not really the same Computers are already widely distributed, and the parts aren't exactly household objects. To make a painrail all you need is a painspren in a gemstone, a strap of leather, and some pweter. If you wanted to you could probably make one in an hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Frustration said: That's not really the same Computers are already widely distributed, and the parts aren't exactly household objects. To make a painrail all you need is a painspren in a gemstone, a strap of leather, and some pweter. If you wanted to you could probably make one in an hour. How about this: It's fairly simple to make a small circuit with a lightbulb, but most people don't do it. Because they already have lightbulbs in their house. It'd be much easier to invert a commercial painrial to make a weapon than it would be to make your own from scratch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration he/him Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Nameless said: How about this: It's fairly simple to make a small circuit with a lightbulb, but most people don't do it. Because they already have lightbulbs in their house. It'd be much easier to invert a commercial painrial to make a weapon than it would be to make your own from scratch. That is true, my point is that it's too simple to make for any sort of law to prevent citizens from possessing them. Probably should have explained that sooner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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