NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wandering Wizard said: "What is better a man doing something right for the wrong reasons or something wrong for right reasons?" "Not sure. But doing the wrong thing with good intentions is still bad." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nameless said: "Not sure. But doing the wrong thing with good intentions is still bad." "Would you agree that killing a child is wrong?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: "Would you agree that killing a child is wrong?" "Of course." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Nameless said: "Of course." "Would killing the child still be wrong if it was destined for irrevocable evil, and it's destiny couldn't be changed?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: "Would killing the child still be wrong if it was destined for irrevocable evil, and it's destiny couldn't be changed?" "No. I don't really see the point here." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Emma thinks a little bit. "Here's a better question. Was killing the Lord Ruler morally wrong?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) "Of course not. He had done and was continuing to do terrible things, and was actively attempting to kill Vin. Still don't see the point you're trying to make." Edited August 31, 2022 by Nameless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Nameless said: "Of course not. He had done and was continuing to do terrible things, and was actively attempting to kill Vin. Still don't see the point. "By killing him they doomed more to die than died by his hand." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: "By killing him they doomed more to die than died by his hand." "No, by killing him they saved the world. Besides that, they had no way of knowing what consequences his death would bring." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Nameless said: "No, by killing him they saved the world. Besides that, they had no way of knowing what consequences his death would bring." "By first condeming the world to destruction." Emma conceeds the second point. "They really couldn't have known the consequences, but they should have at least thought about some sort of protection for the skaa. Armies just marched up and many more died than died before." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: "By first condeming the world to destruction." Emma conceeds the second point. "They really couldn't have known the consequences, but they should have at least thought about some sort of protection for the skaa. Armies just marched up and many more died than died before." "If they had allowed The Lord Ruler's reign to continue, eventually more Skaa would have been killed than would have died during the rebellion. Besides that, the Skaa would be able to live much better lives. Seriously, what's your point with this?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, Nameless said: "If they had allowed The Lord Ruler's reign to continue, eventually more Skaa would have been killed than would have died during the rebellion. Besides that, the Skaa would be able to live much better lives. Seriously, what's your point with this?" "Proving a point. If you had never read those books you never would have been able to reason whether it was good or not to kill the lord ruler." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wandering Wizard said: "Proving a point. If you had never read those books you never would have been able to reason whether it was good or not to kill the lord ruler." "Will I ever use that knowledge? Did reading that book teach me that morality? Or did it just glorify rebellion in an unrealistic way?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Nameless said: "Will I ever use that knowledge? Did reading that book teach me that morality? Or did it just glorify rebellion in an unrealistic way?" "You just did. It allowed you to exercise you concept of morality and it did glorify rebellion, to a unrealistic degree. You can learn an expand concepts of morality by reading books that challenge your assumptions." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: "You just did. It allowed you to exercise you concept of morality and it did glorify rebellion, to a unrealistic degree. You can learn an expand concepts of morality by reading books that challenge your assumptions." "I don't read to expand my worldview, I read to become immersed in a new world. And if immersion is impossible, why bother reading?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Nameless said: "I don't read to expand my worldview, I read to become immersed in a new world. And if immersion is impossible, why bother reading?" "How is immersion impossible?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wandering Wizard said: "How is immersion impossible?" “I thought I told you. Almost all fantasy books are based on a completely flawed premise.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Nameless said: “I thought I told you. Almost all fantasy books are based on a completely flawed premise.” "So is much of history." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: "So is much of history." “Not really.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Nameless said: “Not really.” Emma's eyebrows raise. "No wars were ever declared based on flawed reasoning? No country has ever annexed another when they shouldn't have?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: Emma's eyebrows raise. "No wars were ever declared based on flawed reasoning? No country has ever annexed another when they shouldn't have?" "If anything, books are encouraging that kind of problem. There's always some bad guy, even if it's not the one you expect, and they almost always get beaten in a climactic final battle. That doesn't happen in real life." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Nameless said: "If anything, books are encouraging that kind of problem. There's always some bad guy, even if it's not the one you expect, and they almost always get beaten in a climactic final battle. That doesn't happen in real life." "What will provide hope to those that need hope?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: "What will provide hope to those that need hope?" "Stories that actually happened maybe?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, Nameless said: "Stories that actually happened maybe?" "That could help, but robbing people of all creativity isn't the solution either." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NameIess Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: "That could help, but robbing people of all creativity isn't the solution either." "Robbing people of creativity? I'm not doing that. I'm just not interested in reading anymore." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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