DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 I'm okay with an Ashbringer train. I'm a bit confused why we're ditching the tie though. I'm a bit tempted to propose a train on Fadran, honestly. Part of this is maybe PoE. Fadran's votes haven't really stuck out to me one way or another, from what I can remember. Part of this is that, knowing our fabulous GMs' sense of humor, and all of this talk about confirmed villagers, I feel like Kas and Fifth absolutely would make the only Confirmed Villager role in the game be held by an elim troll. I'm wary of role analysis especially role analysis based on anecdotal knowledge of GM personality but this feels entirely plausible to me tbh. And on the subject of role analysis, I'd kind of be surprised if the elims didn't have a troll, FWIW. It's late in the cycle though, so I don't think I'd vote this way unless somebody else would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, DrakeMarshall said: I'm okay with an Ashbringer train. I'm a bit confused why we're ditching the tie though. I'm a bit tempted to propose a train on Fadran, honestly. Part of this is maybe PoE. Fadran's votes haven't really stuck out to me one way or another, from what I can remember. Part of this is that, knowing our fabulous GMs' sense of humor, and all of this talk about confirmed villagers, I feel like Kas and Fifth absolutely would make the only Confirmed Villager role in the game be held by an elim troll. I'm wary of role analysis especially role analysis based on anecdotal knowledge of GM personality but this feels entirely plausible to me tbh. And on the subject of role analysis, I'd kind of be surprised if the elims didn't have a troll, FWIW. It's late in the cycle though, so I don't think I'd vote this way unless somebody else would too. We're not ditching the Tie. Ash's second role is Veteran, which removes a single vote from him passively. He needs to be 1 vote ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Well, right now he's 2 ahead. I can fix that by going Shining. Possibly. Edit: This ought to result in the following vote tally: Vote Tally Ashbringer (4): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Tani Shining Silhouette (3): Biplet, DrakeMarshall, The Wandering Wizard Steeldancer (1): Random Bystander Kasimir (1): Channelknight Fadran Biplet (1): Sart Edited February 7, 2023 by DrakeMarshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: We're not ditching the Tie. Ash's second role is Veteran, which removes a single vote from him passively. He needs to be 1 vote ahead Quote Ashbringer (4/3): Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Amanuensis, Tani, Biplet (2): DrakeMarshall, Sart Shining Silhouette (2): Biplet, The Wandering Wizard Does this work though? Do we really want another pool this big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, DrakeMarshall said: Well, right now he's 2 ahead. I can fix that by going Shining. Possibly. Not exactly. e!Tani is trying to interfere with our tie. Shining is moving Tani's vote off tho, so don't count it. We also don't want shining to die unless his role is a lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Not exactly. e!Tani is trying to interfere with our tie. Shining is moving Tani's vote off tho, so don't count it. We also don't want shining to die unless his role is a lie Are we intentionally making a three-way tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biplet she/her Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Not exactly. e!Tani is trying to interfere with our tie. Shining is moving Tani's vote off tho, so don't count it. We also don't want shining to die unless his role is a lie Or if shining is elim? When did shining get cleared?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, Shining Silhouette said: Are we intentionally making a three-way tie? No we just want a 2-way, ideally with Mat, Ash, Shining, Steel, and Drake only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Why would Ashbringer have a role that removes a vote from him and another role that makes him immune to being executed at all? I guess maybe the idea is that the -1 vote makes it less likely that a turn is lost on Ashbringer getting executed. If we can confirm both the execution immunity and the -1 vote ability, that ought to strongly hint at Ashbringer's alignment, although of course there are ways the elims could conceivably replicate both of these effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Why would Ashbringer have a role that removes a vote from him and another role that makes him immune to being executed at all? I guess maybe the idea is that the -1 vote makes it less likely that a turn is lost on Ashbringer getting executed. If we can confirm both the execution immunity and the -1 vote ability, that ought to strongly hint at Ashbringer's alignment, although of course there are ways the elims could conceivably replicate both of these effects. Yup. That's why he's up for the tie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: No we just want a 2-way, ideally with Mat, Ash, Shining, Steel, and Drake only. That's five people... Okay, we have Mat and Ash on Ash rn, and Steel doesn't look like he's here so I guess that clears the issue Right now though if Ash's ability activates and I remove the vote there's a three way tie We gotta fix this Ashbringer (4/3): Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Amanuensis, Tani, Biplet (2): DrakeMarshall, Sart Shining Silhouette (2): Biplet, The Wandering Wizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shining Silhouette said: That's five people... Okay, we have Mat and Ash on Ash rn, and Steel doesn't look like he's here so I guess that clears the issue Right now though if Ash's ability activates and I remove the vote there's a three way tie We gotta fix this Ashbringer (4/3): Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Amanuensis, Tani, Biplet (2): DrakeMarshall, Sart Shining Silhouette (2): Biplet, The Wandering Wizard Well uh, Drake is voting for you right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) God dangit Drake, are you messing with the vote count on purpose?????????? Ashbringer Biplet Ashbringer (4/3): Matrim's Dice, Ashbringer, Orlok Tsubodai, Tani, Biplet (2): Shining Silhouette, Amanuensis @Shining Silhouette did you vote bip? Edited February 7, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shining Silhouette said: That's five people... Okay, we have Mat and Ash on Ash rn, and Steel doesn't look like he's here so I guess that clears the issue Right now though if Ash's ability activates and I remove the vote there's a three way tie Spoiler We gotta fix this Ashbringer (4/3): Ashbringer, Matrim's Dice, Amanuensis, Tani, Biplet (2): DrakeMarshall, Sart Shining Silhouette (2): Biplet, The Wandering Wizard Ignore this what am I doing Spoilering my posts cause I think my VC is wrong Spoiler Well then how's this? As a sample VC Quote Ashbringer: Mat, Ash, Aman, Wiz, Tani Biplet: Drake, Shining, Sart Edited February 7, 2023 by Shining Silhouette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: God dangit Drake, are you messing with the vote count on purpose?????????? Ashbringer Biplet Ashbringer (4/3): Matrim's Dice, Ashbringer, Orlok Tsubodai, Tani, Biplet (2): Shining Silhouette, Amanuensis Biplet I'm also in the lead in the VC I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: God dangit Drake, are you messing with the vote count on purpose?????????? Ashbringer Biplet Ashbringer (4): Matrim's Dice, Ashbringer, Orlok Tsubodai, Tani, Biplet (2): Shining Silhouette, Amanuensis Not on purpose, no, although it's very funny that you say that because the thought definitely crossed my mind even if I didn't do it What's wrong with my vote count? 2 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: Well uh, Drake is voting for you right now Yeah, uh, sorry Wizard, is there anyone you would want to switch to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biplet she/her Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 WAIT THAT PUTS ME IN THE LEAD DOESN'T IT??? Ash This is too complicated its way too complicated and we're gonna screw it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, DrakeMarshall said: Not on purpose, no, although it's very funny that you say that because the thought definitely crossed my mind even if I didn't do it What's wrong with my vote count? Yeah, uh, sorry Wizard, is there anyone you would want to switch to? You forgot orlok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Honestly at this point I'm just laughing at how absurd this is. You guys are trying to engineer a tie so hard and might end up messing it up. Though it does seem someone might be intentionally messing with the VCs. Either that or things are just moving too fast for people to catch all the votes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 AH WHATS THE VC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: @Shining Silhouette did you vote bip? Idk I just did tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biplet she/her Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, StrikerEZ said: Honestly at this point I'm just laughing at how absurd this is. You guys are trying to engineer a tie so hard and might end up messing it up. Though it does seem someone might be intentionally messing with the VCs. Either that or things are just moving too fast for people to catch all the votes. help me my love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, StrikerEZ said: Honestly at this point I'm just laughing at how absurd this is. You guys are trying to engineer a tie so hard and might end up messing it up. Though it does seem someone might be intentionally messing with the VCs. Either that or things are just moving too fast for people to catch all the votes. I just feel bad for the GMs when they try to get an accurate VC. I think the tallybot is going to die from all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quivil she/her Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Ash Edit: @Shining Silhouette how does your vote manip work Edited February 7, 2023 by Tani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ he/him Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Biplet said: help me my love Alas, I must save my vote for ExLo, my love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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