The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Archer said: Checked the Shard. Had twenty notifications. Freaked out. Luckily it was because of Devo, not this game. But I do apologize, I've been pretty lazy here because I figured I'm going to die eventually anyway so might as well take the easy out and let you guys wrap things up. Orlok showed 2 elims among Ashbringer, Drake, TUN, Mat, Shining, Steeldancer, TJ, and me. Steeldancer+Shining is bad because we're shooting in a pool that's already been cleared. Steeldancer+Ashbringer is easily refutable with an exe of Ashbringer today. E!Ashbringer clears me, Mat, TJ, Drake. V!Ashbringer means we confirm his role/alignment, and then have more cleared villagers aka meat shields while we wittle down the suspect pool. I call that a win-win. Otherwise, I'm generally opposed to shooting within that pool. It makes more sense to target Biplet or Araris to hedge against e!Shining. Can someone confirm there's a reason e!Fae didn't just claim the Wiz scan-role-thing for cred? I'll note that it's weird that the PM Spider scans have started becoming about past actions instead of present ones. Best guess is still the GMs got bored and wanted to add variety. Ashbringer Uh, we can't kill Ashbringer. Threadmaster remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, The Wandering Wizard said: Uh, we can't kill Ashbringer. Threadmaster remember Allegedly. E!him is a Thug who is bluffing. I'll believe Threadmaster is what he says it is only after we fail to exe him twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, The Wandering Wizard said: Uh, we can't kill Ashbringer. Threadmaster remember He's saying that we should exe him to check, but forgetting that Ash used the ability to kill Sart so he's already basically confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Okay. So hear me out. What if e!Bip? ED1T: D5 Votes Quote Steeldancer (7): Archer, Channelknight Fadran, JNV, Matrim's Dice, Orlok Tsubodai, The last Fae in the Woods, The Wandering Wizard Sart (4): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, TJ Channelknight Fadran (3): Araris Valerian, Biplet, Steeldancer Biplet (1): Sart Assuming E!Steel, E!Sart, and V!Fadran, Biplet and Araris look kinda bad for voting with Steel? Edited February 15, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: He's saying that we should exe him to check, but forgetting that Ash used the ability to kill Sart so he's already basically confirmed. All I've seen is a survival and a day kill. The village indicative part of their role is indefinitely surviving exes. That has yet to be tested 35 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Okay. So hear me out. What if e!Bip? ED1T: D5 Votes Assuming E!Steel, E!Sart, and V!Fadran, Biplet and Araris look kinda bad for voting with Steel? E!Sart trying to split the vote for the Fadran exe to get hammered through is the best theory I've seen so far about why they did what they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, Archer said: All I've seen is a survival and a day kill. The village indicative part of their role is indefinitely surviving exes. That has yet to be tested E!Sart trying to split the vote for the Fadran exe to get hammered through is the best theory I've seen so far about why they did what they did The other part of that is he used his single use ability to kill Sart, who I think we all unanimously agree is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, Archer said: All I've seen is a survival and a day kill. The village indicative part of their role is indefinitely surviving exes. That has yet to be tested I mean, it’s been tested once Also, why would e!me use my Double Exe / Day Kill on e!Sart? I’m not a Coinshot stuck into going for suspects under threat of being exed, nobody knew I could do that. I could have just not done it, let Drake go for Sart or not and play from then on. Or I could have used it on you D6. I don’t know if you’re Village, but you do and E!Me would, and that wouldn’t even look that suspicious IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Ashbringer said: I mean, it’s been tested once Also, why would e!me use my Double Exe / Day Kill on e!Sart? I’m not a Coinshot stuck into going for suspects under threat of being exed, nobody knew I could do that. I could have just not done it, let Drake go for Sart or not and play from then on. Or I could have used it on you D6. I don’t know if you’re Village, but you do and E!Me would, and that wouldn’t even look that suspicious IMO. Y'know, I'm surprised your role doesn't require you to submit it by rollovet like Mat's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Amanuensis said: Okay. So hear me out. What if e!Bip? ED1T: D5 Votes Assuming E!Steel, E!Sart, and V!Fadran, Biplet and Araris look kinda bad for voting with Steel? You know, you were the person that was adamant about v!Steel, and in that world e!Fadran was the best explanation. I was gunning for Steel pretty much that entire cycle, but was willing to acknowledge that you could be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: You know, you were the person that was adamant about v!Steel, and in that world e!Fadran was the best explanation. I was gunning for Steel pretty much that entire cycle, but was willing to acknowledge that you could be right. Fair which leads me back to e!Bip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian he/him Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Fair which leads me back to e!Bip Which is sorta weird with e!Sart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Archer said: E!Sart trying to split the vote for the Fadran exe to get hammered through is the best theory I've seen so far about why they did what they did The votecount right before Sart's claim was allegedly Steeldancer (7): Archer, Channelknight Fadran, JNV, The Wandering Wizard, The last Fae in the Woods, DrakeMarshall, Orlok Tsubodai Channelknight Fadran (4): Matrim's Dice, Araris Valerian, Steeldancer, Biplet Sart (3): Amanuensis, Ashbringer, TJ so if the goal was to exe v!Fadran, Sart voting for Fadran and then one Steel voter switching over makes it a tie, and if they really want it Tani could vote. That doesn't seem like a good plan though since it throws away Sart, Steel + one more player just to delay Steel's death. The actual result of Sart sacrificing himself trying to delay Steel's death doesn't make much sense either. Getting a claimed scan out on Bip was more important/plausible than killing Fadran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: Hey, if this backfires it’s not on me, alright? xD Y’all should cmon over to the statistical side, we have a higher chance of winning… #MathIsAnElimTell in their finite but large wisdom, the sacred numbers told me to vote steel before it was even cool the sacred numbers are a path to great enlightenment! #MathIsAnElimTell 10 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: I guess, what do you want me to do? I don't sus people to get them to do things for me I sus people when they are sus >:P ...also you may have noticed that I constructed elim theories for everyone 10 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: We don’t need to paranoid. We’re at the stage where statistically we win, so statistically we should make smart exes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #MathIsAnElimTell 8 hours ago, Kasimir said: Your completely organic votecount: I only buy organic vote counts at the supermarket 4 hours ago, Amanuensis said: D5 Votes Assuming E!Steel, E!Sart, and V!Fadran, Biplet and Araris look kinda bad for voting with Steel? Agreed. The Biplet case is confused slightly by the fact that e!Sart subsequently claimed to have a red scan on Biplet, which looks an awful lot like a panicked response to the fact that the top 2 trains were on elims at the time (edit: apparently Fadran actually had 1 more vote than Sart at the time, but still). However, this comes down to risk appetite. In the world where you decide you are going to take some kind of loss inevitably, claiming to have a red scan on an actual teammate actually makes a good deal of sense because it does at least stand a decent chance of getting one of you semi-cleared out of it. This would be a reasonable play in my books, assuming those involved agreed to it, and it was late enough in the cycle that I completely believe the elim team could have talked it over and agreed on this course of action. Also yes Araris was indeed gunning for Steel. Although I'm not sure how much weight that ultimately has when Araris eventually switched onto somebody else. 3 hours ago, Ashbringer said: Also, why would e!me use my Double Exe / Day Kill on e!Sart? To play devil's advocate here: I was going to shoot Sart if you hadn't beat me to it. You know this to be true. So if Sart is already going to die, being the one to do the deed nets you village cred. Yes, it frees me up to do something different with my action on that night, but in my opinion this course of action is still broadly a net positive trade for e!Ashbringer. Edited February 16, 2023 by DrakeMarshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Uhm. Vote count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Uhm. Vote count? Using the last GM VC as a basis Archer (5): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, JNV JNV (2): Mat, Wiz Matrim's Dice (1): The last Fae in the Woods,JNV (2): Wizard, Mat Ashbringer (1) : Archer @Amanuensis, should be fixed now >> Edited February 16, 2023 by The Wandering Wizard Posted way too early >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: Using the last GM VC as a basis Archer (5): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, JNV JNV (2): Mat, Wiz Matrim's Dice (1): The last Fae in the Woods, Ashbringer (1) : Archer @Amanuensis, should be fixed now >> Hm. I guess this is just what we’re going with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I believe that's right. Drake - I mean, you'd been claiming pacifist for so long I have no idea who you'd NK But also e!me letting you spend your NK on Sart is better in a scenario where there's another Elim I think is in danger. Just from Thread Master I was decently village read, methinks. And getting an extra death in the Day would be something I think e!me would save to the end. Getting past the exelo rush of dead villagers would help Elims significantly. I suppose I could have done it for village credit, maybe, but I honestly don't think I would have. Saving it would be more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: Hm. I guess this is just what we’re going with? Well it could maybe switch to JNV, that's honestly the only other option that I currently see with who all is one right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: Well it could maybe switch to JNV, that's honestly the only other option that I currently see with who all is one right now. Or we just let Drake knock off JNV tonight, which is fine. No point in moving (or at least it won’t change anything) and I don’t want to bbcode on mobile cause I’m lazy, so I’ll stay and if y’all flashwagon JNV I’ll be confused, but it’s not my choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) I don’t think Archer is going to be a hit, but better safe than sorry I guess Edited February 16, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 That’s the cycle, folks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 LG92: Night Seven - Shooting the Messenger Spoiler >>> Archer was removed! Quote Archer (5): Amanuensis, Araris Valerian, Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, JNV JNV (2): Matrim's Dice, The Wandering Wizard Matrim's Dice (1): The last Fae in the Woods The Night has begun and will end on Friday, 17th February 2022 at 1100hrs SGT (GMT+8)! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) Rule Clarifications: Spoiler Kas and Fifth are only valid vote targets at parity. The wincons are complete. Flipless implies no roles and no alignments. Survivals, if any, will be written up in the standard way. Player List: Spoiler 1. @Ashbringer as Ash the Amateur, a RPing college student 2. @The Wandering Wizard as Emma, twin of Wiz, corruptor of all, avatar of the Kaos. 3. @Steeldancer as Steel 4. @Channelknight Fadran as Fadran the Guy From the Fellowship of the Thing Who Has Never Done This Before. 5. @StrikerEZ as Kjell, an overworked, stressed out man who really needs a break 6. @xinoehp512 as xinoehp513, a newbie to the forum that is very puzzled that his name was already taken. 7. @JNV as JNV 8. @Matrim's Dice as Matrim's Dice 9. @Biplet as Biplet 10. @Araris Valerian as Metalcognition, definitely not an imposter of the founder of SE. 11. @Devotary of Spontaneity as Cecelia, Devona, and Saponin 12. @Amanuensis as Adavantos 13. @The Known Novel as TKN (The Known (and Totally Kool) Novel) 14. @The Bookwyrm as Bookwyrm, the SE deprived Sharder who's doing this even though it might be a bad idea. 15. @Tani as Mehelin, a random bystander who isn't Randby. 16. @Archer as Archer, a player that's hellbent on PM spidering. 17. @Walin as Walin, the consistently befuddled and absent SE-er 18. @|TJ| as mad watcher 19. @dannnnnex as Danex 20. @DrakeMarshall as Drake 21. @Orlok Tsubodai as Orlok (he's Orlok right? I think?) 22. @Random Bystander as Random Bystander 23. @Sart as Sart 24. @Shining Silhouette as Silho, bootleg King's Wit 25. @The last Fae in the Woods as The last Fae in the Woods Edited February 17, 2023 by Kasimir 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) So if the Elims (edit: and Drake) stop killing people can we call it a draw Edited February 16, 2023 by Ashbringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard he/him Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: So if the Elims (edit: and Drake) stop killing people can we call it a draw Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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