Edgedancer74 he/him Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 I wonder, are elantrians cognitive shadows like returned or Heralds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Not exactly. They didn't die. They are something dfferent. Spoiler Khyrindor You've said that Returned count as Cognitive shadows "stapled" back into their bodies, and that the Heralds are at least similar. Would I be right in assuming that Elantrians could be considered as Cognitive Shadows as well, or am I barking up the wrong tree? Brandon Sanderson Elantrians are something different. They don't actually "die" to be created. Recognize that the term cognitive shadow is an in-cosmere theory, which I'm not going to comment on as the creator of the setting. The theory is this: Investiture seeks sapience. It looks for someone to control it or, in some instances, spontaneously adopts personality. A mind (cognitive aspect of a person) can become infused with Investiture. This acts a little like minerals with petrified wood, replacing the mind and personality with investiture. When the actual person dies, this investiture imprint remains behind. A copy of the soul, but not the actual soul. Others disagree with this, and think the soul itself persists. Still others reject the theory in its entirety. linkhyrule5 Huh. [Mistborn spoilers edited out] Stormlight Three Update #6 (Jan. 20, 2017) Edited March 8, 2023 by alder24 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer74 he/him Posted March 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 I wonder if we will see more things like them in the cosmere and if we will get a term for them other than elantrian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Edgedancer1174 said: I wonder if we will see more things like them in the cosmere and if we will get a term for them other than elantrian Elantris 2 or 3 will be written one day, so one day we will get an explanation of what is happening with them when they become Elantrians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer74 he/him Posted March 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, alder24 said: Elantris 2 or 3 will be written one day, so one day we will get an explanation of what is happening with them when they become Elantrians. Very true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendelian he/him Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 My theory is that they die, then leave a cognitive shadow that fades with time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treamayne Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 11:40 AM, Edgedancer1174 said: I wonder, are Elantrians cognitive shadows like returned or Heralds? I don't think an Elantrian dies at all when undergoing the Shaod. I think that was an in-world misconception because they didn't understand that Reod Elantrians were "stuck" mid-transformation in a state where their bodies were supported by the Dor despite the lack of heartbeat or need for food - which was just a symptom of the incomplete transformation. Their body was essentially "paused" in the state of incomplete transformation, and this twilight state was mistaken for being "dead." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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