Vin(Diesel) Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 BTW, a Pyrrhic victory means a victory that costs the winner so much that it wasn’t worth winning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Spirit he/him Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 I support Dalinar! No real evidence, I just want good to beat evil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 I believe there will be no winner. Odium will force Dalinar to break the terms of the contest before it ends. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GudThymes he/him Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 I think the terms for the contest will be broken before day 10 and it just won't happen. Who breaks the terms I don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvisual Haze Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 Odium wins, Dalinar leads his foreign legion but life on Roshar is surprisingly chill once the active fighting stops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolsnow7 Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 On 8/12/2024 at 5:29 PM, Subvisual Haze said: Odium wins, Dalinar leads his foreign legion but life on Roshar is surprisingly chill once the active fighting stops. Do you really think Odium is going to allow life to be chill? At the very least he will oppress his new slaves to such an extent that their lives will not remotely be chill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvisual Haze Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 42 minutes ago, coolsnow7 said: Do you really think Odium is going to allow life to be chill? At the very least he will oppress his new slaves to such an extent that their lives will not remotely be chill. Even the old Rayse was offering to leave the system if Dalinar released Honor's bonds holding him in system (until the power raged out and said it'd come back to destroy Cultivation anyways). T hasn't lost control to the shard yet like Rayse did and personally has no interest in trashing Roshar. It's the ideal time for peace really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acolyte of Radiance Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 (edited) I hope odium wins, but honor is restored and cultivation and honor team up and kill odium, revealing cultivation in the epilogue as the real villain.. So an Odium Pyrrhic victory Edited August 25 by Acolyte of Radiance 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Dalinar will forfeit, because he is blackmailed by Todium. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Bzhydack he/him Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 I think Todium will try force a draw this should be option. Also I have idea of locking Dalinar in eternal contest - maybe sort of time bubble, so contest will never end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CtrlAltDepressed Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 On 8/12/2024 at 4:45 PM, alder24 said: I believe there will be no winner. Odium will force Dalinar to break the terms of the contest before it ends. Isn't Dalinar breaking the terms the same as Odium winning? Dalinar would be in Odiums power, meaning he would have to free him, serve as fused, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 11 minutes ago, CtrlAltDepressed said: Isn't Dalinar breaking the terms the same as Odium winning? Dalinar would be in Odiums power, meaning he would have to free him, serve as fused, etc. The question is about winning the contest, if there is no contest, nobody can win it. But Odium will win in the end, but not through the contest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basement_boi he/him Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 What’s funny to me is that right now Honor’s champion winning is losing the poll. It’s times like this where I think it’s unfortunate that we already know that there will be another series of Stormlight and that the only ostensibly guaranteed good ending is after book 10. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Spirit he/him Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, basement_boi said: What’s funny to me is that right now Honor’s champion winning is losing the poll. It’s times like this where I think it’s unfortunate that we already know that there will be another series of Stormlight and that the only ostensibly guaranteed good ending is after book 10. I guess Honor is dead then, since the hearts of men don't believe in him. Realistically, I think that Brandon is very aware and very careful of the information he's given out about book 5. For one example, every single chapter release has changed who we think the wind is. I also have no idea if kaladin will live or die (or potential ascend or become a herald). I think that the way the contest goes and the loophole are going to surprise us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Child of Hodor Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 Odium wins but Pyrrhic victory. There will be a new stalemate between the shards for the back 5 to resolve. My pet theory is Dalinar ascends to Honor AND is made part of the Oathpact by Ishar. The Oathpact was beween Honor and the Heralds. Dalinar is now both Shard and Herald he can alter the deal to trap Odium instead of just the Fused. So long as Dalinar remains on Braize Odium is trapped there. I think this still works if Dalinar is a Fused since the Fused go back to Braize automatically which would trigger the lock. I'm assuming Ishar altered it to so that Dalinar was enough similar to how Taln by himself was enough. I don't have all the details ironed out, always another secret, but the end state is both Dalinar and Taravangian on Braize arguing endlessly a callback to RoW when Dalinar said he hoped one day they'd be able to sit and talk like they used to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Spirit he/him Posted September 13 Report Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Child of Hodor said: Odium wins but Pyrrhic victory. There will be a new stalemate between the shards for the back 5 to resolve. My pet theory is Dalinar ascends to Honor AND is made part of the Oathpact by Ishar. The Oathpact was beween Honor and the Heralds. Dalinar is now both Shard and Herald he can alter the deal to trap Odium instead of just the Fused. So long as Dalinar remains on Braize Odium is trapped there. I think this still works if Dalinar is a Fused since the Fused go back to Braize automatically which would trigger the lock. I'm assuming Ishar altered it to so that Dalinar was enough similar to how Taln by himself was enough. I don't have all the details ironed out, always another secret, but the end state is both Dalinar and Taravangian on Braize arguing endlessly a callback to RoW when Dalinar said he hoped one day they'd be able to sit and talk like they used to. Part of becoming a fused is that Dalinar would have to do what odium told him, so Odium could just force Dalinar as a herald to “break” and let him back to Roshar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Silver Posted Monday at 01:10 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:10 PM For this vote/ poll I consider a draw a win for Odium. First one to fall off or leave the tower dies. This keeps the Bondsmith in Urithiru for the next 20 years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyabi She/Her Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago I love that I got to learn a new word/phrase from this topic! =] What about "everyone loses and the world explodes?" XD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcey2 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Miyabi said: What about "everyone loses and the world explodes?" XD Or "everyone explodes and the world loses" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyabi She/Her Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 14 minutes ago, morcey2 said: Or "everyone explodes and the world loses" Now, THAT is an interesting take. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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