Lord_of_Awesome Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 What would you call the shardblade material? Shardsteel? Sprensteel? Souliron? Or maybe... they are made out of DRAGONSTEEL? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_of_Awesome Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Stretching it a bit, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 A popular choice is tanavastium, but we know that Nahel bond spren are of both Honor and Cultivation... I say sprenium. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If.you.die.I.go.stupid Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Only thing that comes to mind is when Kaladin and Shallan fought the casam fiend. She summoned her blade and his cheek brushed against the "cold metal". So some sort of metal. Spren or ideas, so I'd go for ratium. Ratio for idea and ium for metal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Strictly speaking, my understanding is that they aren't made out of anything that we would consider an actual material/substance/compound. Materials have definite physical properties and characteristics; a hunk of iron, or even atium, can't change its volume at the whim of its cognitive representation. Shardblades are made out of spren and spren are composed of investiture which has achieved some sort of identity or become shaped by human personification of some force, emotion, or sensation. Basically, I think shardblades are made of the same stuff that spren are made of: investiture mixed with some kind of ethereal ghost-matter from the cognitive realm that defies explanation in the physical realm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_of_Awesome Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) We could still name it though. I think that Sprenium or Sprensteel is my favorite. 7 hours ago, hwiles said: Basically, I think shardblades are made of the same stuff that spren are made of: investiture mixed with some kind of ethereal ghost-matter from the cognitive realm that defies explanation in the physical realm. I think calling it similar to steel sorta fits, as steel is a mix of iron and coal/charcoal, so an Investiture + "Cognitive Matter" mixture would fit. If you see what I'm saying. If you consider the "ethereal substance" a gas (of sorts) then the mist that appears while summoning a Shardblade could be the temporary ultra-quick conversion of gas to liquid, before it changes to a solid. It would be really quick, so the mist appears like condensation. AND we see it mentioned multiple times that condensation appears on a summoned Deadblade. Thoughts on this matter? Edited September 23, 2016 by Lord_of_Awesome Bad england m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Lord_of_Awesome said: We could still name it though. I think that Sprenium or Sprensteel is my favorite. I think calling it similar to steel sorta fits, as steel is a mix of iron and coal/charcoal, so an Investiture + "Cognitive Matter" mixture would fit. If you see what I'm saying. If you consider the "ethereal substance" a gas (of sorts) then the mist that appears while summoning a Shardblade could be the temporary ultra-quick conversion of gas to liquid, before it changes to a solid. It would be really quick, so the mist appears like condensation. AND we see it mentioned multiple times that condensation appears on a summoned Deadblade. Thoughts on this matter? I think the condensation is just due to the rapid displacement of air and water vapor as the sword materializes. Basically, the air is shoved out of place, causing it to become compressed briefly, thus squeezing the water out; kind of like wringing a sponge. The transition of the water vapor to the liquid phase has to do with the pressure encountered during this brief displacement (it would also probably cause the sword to be physically cooler than the ambient temperature briefly after summoning due to the water beginning to rapidly evaporate back into the suddenly too-dry air surrounding it.) if you summoned a sword in a desert I don't think it produce much condensation. Probably a benign enough question that we could get a WoB if one doesn't already exist. Edited September 23, 2016 by hwiles 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 I vote for unobtanium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Go back to Pandora (or one of the worlds in the Ratchet and Clank games...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubs Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 WoB on the topic Q: Will Allomancy affect Shardblades?A: It cannot affect Shardblades. Well, cannot is a strong term. Things with innate Investiture are much more difficult to affect by any of the magics at all. Which is why it's very hard for Szeth to bind people or lash people whering Shardplate to the ceiling. In the same way Allomancy wouldn't be able to push on it without some help. Duralumin with a strong push would probably do it.I was just wondering if it was actually metal.It is metalish--it's metal enough for Allomancy to work on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmosiman Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I wonder how that ties in with the Cognitive aspect of the blade. It's metal because swords are supposed to be made from metal; but not an actual metal because it isn't really metal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Thunder he/him Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Its made out of Adonalsium Must be a reason (OH MUST THERE?!) for it to sound like a metal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakeout Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Also, there's a WOB out there somewhere that says the metal that Plate and Blade are made out of is the god metal of Honor, so it's as much a real metal as atium or lerasium. Edited October 5, 2017 by Fakeout Looked up the wob and had some incorrect information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 5 hours ago, Fakeout said: Also, there's a WOB out there somewhere that says the metal that Plate and Blade are made out of is the god metal of Honor, so it's as much a real metal as atium or lerasium. This is the reason many people call the the Shardblades' metal "Tanavastium" but it's an unproper term as many Radiantspren are a mix of Honor and Cultivation. By the way we don't know how a Plate comes to be so we can only speculate about its composition. 14 hours ago, Velvet Thunder said: Its made out of Adonalsium Must be a reason (OH MUST THERE?!) for it to sound like a metal! It's a common theory that Investiture could be solified only as metal. Wyndle confirmed the Spren could only become Metallic object 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Metal Rithmatist Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Id of thought the blades were alloys of honor and cultivations metal. With windrunner blades being pure tanavastium and edgedancer blades being pure.....cultivation.....iumiumiumium.... And the other 8 being varying alloys of the 2 But brandon has said theyre made entirely of honors power which seems....odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulk he/him Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Full Metal Rithmatist said: Id of thought the blades were alloys of honor and cultivations metal. With windrunner blades being pure tanavastium and edgedancer blades being pure.....cultivation.....iumiumiumium.... And the other 8 being varying alloys of the 2 But brandon has said theyre made entirely of honors power which seems....odd to me. I would guess it would have to do with the following: Honor and his Heralds made the Oathpact, not Cultivation as best we can tell The Honorblades are segments or slivers (I'm forgetting the proper term) of Honor's power The spren saw what Honor did with the Blades and found out how to mimic that ability through bonding with a human I would theorize therefore that Culvitation, while she inhabits the world, did not take an active role in its defense once Odium appeared, either because of her Intent or because Honor sought to deflect Odium's attention from her to himself. She was more behind the scenes in some fashion. Really hope we get to see her on screen at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Full Metal Rithmatist said: Id of thought the blades were alloys of honor and cultivations metal. I prefer to think of them as isotopes. (Bands of Mourning spoiler, kinda) Spoiler After all, harmonium is not lerasium & atium alloy. 2 hours ago, Full Metal Rithmatist said: With windrunner blades being pure tanavastium and edgedancer blades being pure.....cultivation... Actually, honorspren claim to be the most Honor. There are some who would agree with that and some who would disagree. 2 hours ago, Full Metal Rithmatist said: But brandon has said theyre made entirely of honors power which seems....odd to me. He only said that Honorblades are parts of Honor. Edited October 6, 2017 by Overstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Yeah probably the only "Tanavastium" we saw is in the Honorblades. I am still not sure about the Sprenblades' composition because we have to know the Spren's composition. But I believe it's not a properly alloy between the two godmetals but rather a proper metal born by the H&C's interaction (also if this fact is weird as the ratio between the Shard's contributions changes between the Spren) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shqueeves he/him Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Personally I think that shardblades are more Honor and shardplate is more Cultivation. The blades deal more with bonds (bonding to certain people, separating a physical object's bond to the spiritual realm, etc) and plate can be grown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Thunder he/him Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Shqueeves said: Personally I think that shardblades are more Honor and shardplate is more Cultivation. The blades deal more with bonds (bonding to certain people, separating a physical object's bond to the spiritual realm, etc) and plate can be grown. That's a really interesting point that I haven't thought about before... Plate is cultivated.. Huh. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker861 Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 9/22/2016 at 5:48 PM, Overstorm said: A popular choice is tanavastium, but we know that Nahel bond spren are of both Honor and Cultivation... I say sprenium. I like the name sprenium as well. And I've always felt that every Shardblade is more or less the same material kinda like how cold rolled steel and stainless steel are both steel just slightly different. So Syl would become Honor sprenium and Pattern would become Cryptic sprenium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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