ccstat he/him Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) Hi I'm new! I strongly suspect that the inevitable Kaladin/Szeth battle will end with Szeth being captured alive. Welcome, Defiant! The main reason I don't agree with the captured-alive scenario is that there are not many cells that will hold up to a shardblade. There are ways around this (e.g. round-the-clock guard by two people in plate, or a specially designed cell that will collapse if cut, or maybe just immobilize his hands in a way that he couldn't grasp the blade if he ever did summon it), and maybe the Alethi have had occasion to think of such methods. Still, they don't seem the type to go in for non-lethal force, so I doubt restraining a shardbearer comes up very often. Edited January 31, 2014 by ccstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I think an interesting POV to see the confrontation from would be Jasnah's or Shallah's POV if they don't already know what Kaladin is. A scholarly POV of the battle could be quite informative. However, I think this is unlikely. Worst scenario would be if Jasnah is there at all. Then from anyone's viewpoint, Kal takes on Szeth, (if the pov isn't Kal) there's a This post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules moment when Kaladin reveals his Radiantness, then Jasnah soulcasts Szeth into a pile of dust. Since Szeth was given instructions to be quick, and our bright scholars have been delayed at sea, I doubt Jasna or Shallan will be present to have a POV. Therefore the assassin will have to face the men, and be spared the fate of joining Navani's rare-paperweight collection. Edited to add link Edited January 31, 2014 by Lorna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Welcome, Defiant! The main reason I don't agree with the captured-alive scenario is that there are not many cells that will hold up to a shardblade. There are ways around this (e.g. round-the-clock guard by two people in plate, or a specially designed cell that will collapse if cut, or maybe just immobilize his hands in a way that he couldn't grasp the blade if he ever did summon it), and maybe the Alethi have had occasion to think of such methods. Still, they don't seem the type to go in for non-lethal force, so I doubt restraining a shardbearer comes up very often. It's way too early in the series to kill Szeth. He needs a redemption arc. He's been questioning his path all over the place. Brandon isn't George R.R. Martin. He follows story arcs to a narrative conclusion. Szeth surrendering his shardblade would be the start of a redemption arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 It's way too early in the series to kill Szeth. He needs a redemption arc. He's been questioning his path all over the place. Brandon isn't George R.R. Martin. He follows story arcs to a narrative conclusion. Szeth surrendering his shardblade would be the start of a redemption arc. Offtopic: GRRM does too. I can't really think of anyone he's killed prematurely. I agree, though, that it's too early to kill Szeth. Brandon can claim dead characters might get a flashback book, but I don't believe he'd do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 We can agree to disagree on George. I'm mainly complaining about Dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi5 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I am in the Szeth-has-an-honorblade camp, and I think that means Brandon might be able to kill him off before redemption. We know other holders of honorblades have come back after being killed, so if he has an honorblade, he might come back somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I can't help but see a parallel between Szeth's story and that of the Uvara in TWoK Wandersail chapter as told by Hoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.S.A.M.K.M Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 THe cover with Kaladin, the kneeling spear man, in the full version, there is a guy in faded/grubby white, standing on a pile of corpses, with a sword, which i guess is a shardblade. That is the back side of the cover. We can all guess who that is, so the big fight is apparently on the shattered plains themselves. Kaladin is supposed to guard dalinor and his family, so would they accompany his sons on to the battlefield themselves, or stick to the king. An assassination on the plains would be easier than in the camps, and his abilities would allow for a quick escape. The thing is, his team would know the powers are dependant on storm light, so every crystal and stone would be removed or covered, until the ooponent is weaken enough to be over whelmed by superior numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilKetchupCow he/him Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Starting of with a renairn interlude Pov, then Szeth andthen to Kal for the start of part 3? Kaladin wins after Szeth gets knocked out by Rocks horneater feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII he/him Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 first round will be Szeths second will be up for grabs i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts