Mailliw73 he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I don't think we know the answer to this so what do you think? If a dead Mistborn or Feruchemist was made into a lifeless, would they be able to burn metals? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Interesting question! The thing to bear in mind is that a Lifeless has had it's Spiritual aspect fundamentally altered in ways we don't fully understand. The question would be, does becoming a Lifeless affect the sDNA that allows for Metallic Investiture? (I feel like one of the Five Scholars when I talk like that.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Ooh or could a Lifeless be Spiked to gain Allomancy/Feruchemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Ooh or could a Lifeless be Spiked to gain Allomancy/Feruchemy? We have a WoB that if you made a Lifeless out of someone who was about to Return, the Awakening Breath and Endowment's Divine Breath would collide and "crazy things" would happen. Since in Hemalurgy you essentially graft a Spiritual aspect onto somebody, I believe it would function in a similarly "crazy" way. This answer is both precise and completely unhelpful in figuring out exactly what would happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I believe that WoB mentioned something about how you'd create a "Drab god", which would be hilarious. No specification on what a Drab god is, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 So...a Returned with all the colour leached from them (from the Lifelessing), but with a BioChromatic aura? It's possible that he meant small d drab. The other thing is that they would be Invested with someone else's Breath, and not in a manner that would allow them to assimilate it. So they might function perfectly well, but whenever someone Commanded them to do something with command phrases, they would feel a compulsion to act. One they could easily repress, probably, but still a compulsion - and if you could whisper in their ear when they were sleeping, they just might obey unconsciously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Joe in the Bush Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 When you die, your Spiritual self leaves your Physical self. Then someone put's someone else's Breath in you, making a Lifeless. If the Breath is Spiritual, then you would need a Mistborn's Breath to make a Mistborn Lifeless. If the Breath is Cognitive, then you would need to use Hemalurgy. Or you could just use Fan fiction, and not reveal how it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsworn Panda he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Hmm... How would the Lifeless Mistborn burn metals then? Their digestive systems would be largely useless, and most of their system composes of Ichor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Joe in the Bush Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Well then. There goes that Idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Hmm... How would the Lifeless Mistborn burn metals then? Their digestive systems would be largely useless, and most of their system composes of Ichor.Mistborn don't really digest it however. They just put it in their stomachs and let the magic do its thing. As long as the Lifeless still has a stomach, it should be fine (and maybe even if it doesn't, since Inquisitors can burn their own headspikes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaring at the Survivor he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I doubt they could burn anything. 1) As stated above, what with their digestive systems and all that. 2) For the same or similar reasons as a kandra couldn't burn metals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 What if you Awakened The Lord ruler. Using what ever technique Vasher and Shashara? (Is that her name? ) used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Joe in the Bush Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 What if you awakened the Spikes of the Lord ruler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 I doubt they could burn anything. 1) As stated above, what with their digestive systems and all that. 2) For the same or similar reasons as a kandra couldn't burn metals. 1) Again, you don't need a functional digestive system to burn metals. It just has to be in your body.2) Kandra can burn metals. ZAS Could you make a Kandra an Allomancer? BRANDON SANDERSON With the right sequence of sorts of things, you could impart those powers to them theoretically. It’s not likely to happen, but you could do it. You could build a spike that would let them Push or Pull. But you’d give the powers separately, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreathTaker he/him Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 A Kandra with a Hemalurgic skeleton? Do you think that would work? By that I mean their skeleton, instead of being bone of stone or crystal would be made out of all the different spikes to grant Allomancy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorridgeBrick he/him Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 A Kandra with a Hemalurgic skeleton? Do you think that would work? By that I mean their skeleton, instead of being bone of stone or crystal would be made out of all the different spikes to grant Allomancy. I think so. We know spikes are still functional after being melted down, reshaped, etc, so joining them together into a skeleton should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreathTaker he/him Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Will it work as a character in MAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly he/him Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) House rules, I think. I'd suggest limiting their kandra stunts or making it clear that they're focused on one art or the other, with drawbacks for the neglected on. Edited May 10, 2014 by Swimmingly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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