+Child of Hodor Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 10 is the magic number of the Rosharan system. There are 10 gas giants in the system, 10 Essences, 10 Surges which are tied to 10 fundamental forces of the cosmere, 10 Dawncities, 10 Silver Kingdoms, 10 Oathgates. 10 Months of the year, 10 weeks per month. But Tien is Ten + i. As if he wasn't a special and unique enough snowflake he has the magic number in his name. What could it mean!!! (It doesn't mean anything) Maybe they wanted to name him Ten, but his parents have country accents so it sounded drawn out southern Tieeen. Edited February 27, 2019 by Child of Hodor 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quantus he/him Posted February 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Tien = 10 + i i is the Imaginary Number, the Square Root of Negative 1 The most Negative One around is Odium Tien is ODIUM!!! 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailnaise she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 *gasp of disbelief* How have we missed this for so long!? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds Alight she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Quantus said: Tien = 10 + i i is the Imaginary Number, the Square Root of Negative 1 The most Negative One around is Odium Tien is ODIUM!!! I will never accept any other theory ever again. Have an upvote! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsier'sGodComplex she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 This is a breakthrough like none other! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahriman he/him Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Tien's "death" really messed up Kaladin, Odium tried to mess up everyone... it fits. It all fits. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds Alight she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Kaladin will swear his fourth Oath when he fights and ultimately kills Tien aka Odium: "I will let go of those I cannot save." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamor she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Quantus said: Tien = 10 + i i is the Imaginary Number, the Square Root of Negative 1 The most Negative One around is Odium Tien is ODIUM!!! I knew it! No one is actually that adorable and sweet!!! He’s EVIL!!! Maybe all of the rocks that he was trying to give Kal were oathstones that just ended up not working! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsier'sGodComplex she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Lunamor said: I knew it! No one is actually that adorable and sweet!!! He’s EVIL!!! Maybe all of the rocks that he was trying to give Kal were oathstones that just ended up not working! SO...MANY...AMAZING...THEORIES!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsier'sGodComplex she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Kaladin's younger brother is Odium's heir!!!!! Question, who killed Tien? What does the book say? Edited February 27, 2019 by Kelsier'sGodComplex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamor she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kelsier'sGodComplex said: Kaladin's younger brother is Odium's heir!!!!! Question, who killed Tien? What does the book say? Some random soldier, I think. Edited February 27, 2019 by Lunamor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsier'sGodComplex she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) IT WAS ODIUMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!! Edited February 27, 2019 by Kelsier'sGodComplex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamor she/her Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, Kelsier'sGodComplex said: IT WAS ODIUMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!! It actually might have been. The soldier could have been under the influence of the thrill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGirlWhoLookedUp she/her Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 So does that mean Roshone is the good guy, by sending Tien to war? Or maybe he was influenced by Tien/Odium and it all a ruse to get Kaladin to join the army! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus he/him Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, TheGirlWhoLookedUp said: So does that mean Roshone is the good guy, by sending Tien to war? Or maybe he was influenced by Tien/Odium and it all a ruse to get Kaladin to join the army! Nah, I will never believe Roshone to be that significant anywhere at all. But it was technically Amaram that sent him off, and that put him on the battlefield instead of the messengers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailnaise she/her Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Lunamor said: Some random soldier, I think. [that killed tien] Well I don't think it was all that random, because the Skybreakers were targeting him, right? So it definitely could have been a random soldier that did the job, but a skybreaker was there somewhere. (The Ghostbloods knew about it all, so we found that out in one of their letters to Shallan for those who don't remember.) 54 minutes ago, Quantus said: Nah, I will never believe Roshone to be that significant anywhere at all. Also 100% agree with this statement lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndlerunner he/him Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just when I thought I was over Tien... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurin he/him Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 His name even is the number 10 in Dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailnaise she/her Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Wyndlerunner said: Just when I thought I was over Tien... Uh same! No actually I was reading a COMPLETELY unrelated book, and there was a character named Tien and I actually like teared up and had to stop for a sec. It's not okay. Although I suppose if our theory of him being Odium is true...maybe not so much? Well innocent until proven guilty, am I right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndlerunner he/him Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 15 hours ago, Mailnaise said: Uh same! No actually I was reading a COMPLETELY unrelated book, and there was a character named Tien and I actually like teared up and had to stop for a sec. It's not okay. Although I suppose if our theory of him being Odium is true...maybe not so much? Well innocent until proven guilty, am I right? I'm learning French at the moment, and Tien is literally a French word, and it's not ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamor she/her Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Wyndlerunner said: I'm learning French at the moment, and Tien is literally a French word, and it's not ok What does it mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Child of Hodor Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lunamor said: What does it mean? Yours. Indicates possession or ownership. It's like Tu en espanol. Has other meanings, but none that are bad. Maybe there is a slang usage though. le tien yours la tienne yours les tiens yours les tiennes yours https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/french-english/tien https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tien#French Etymology[edit] From the neuter of Latin tuus Adjective[edit] tien (feminine singular tienne, masculine plural tiens, feminine plural tiennes) (archaic) your; belonging to you (singular Edited March 1, 2019 by Child of Hodor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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