Long Game 81: Lasting Integrity?

[Araris Valerian he/him]

4 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

It's very much... not a bussing situation :P.

Every situation is a bussing situation .

Edit: Realistically, if the elims are pretty sure one of them is going to die today, then bussing is worthwhile. They can't pull off a hammer, so this is somewhat unique compared with other games.

Edited November 2, 2021 by Araris Valerian

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Well, it seems like half the players just want to not vote and let the elims kill us for free...

[Mat he/him]

With a 4/2 ratio, killing me is worse than killing nobody. So if no compromise can be reached, I am totally fine with that :P.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

15 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

With a 4/2 ratio, killing me is worse than killing nobody. So if no compromise can be reached, I am totally fine with that :P.

Not really. Elims just knock off Archer, who everyone has as village, and that leaves us back at square one with less people to bounce ideas off of. You really think if we can't get our act together in 48 hours that a couple more days will help at all?

Edited November 2, 2021 by Araris Valerian

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, Araris Valerian said:

Not really. Elims just knock off Archer, who everyone has as village, and that leaves us back at square one with less people to bounce ideas off of. You really think if we can't get our act together in 48 hours that a couple more days will help at all?

I mean. Delaying the inevitable, I suppose. But hey, it's better than just throwing in the towel and giving up, right?

[danex he/him]

Guess I'm going with Mat

This game is making me way to paranoid

Honestly  the fact that we're all reading archer as vil is making me extremely paranoid 

like what if he's elim

6 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Not really. Elims just knock off Archer, who everyone has as village,

araris pointing that out like this is making me thing maybe araris/archer e/e????????

but then I still think mat is more elim than either of them so that doesnt make any sense????????

vanilla games are too stressful smh my head

[Mat he/him]

2 minutes ago, Danex said:

but then I still think mat is more elim than either of them so that doesnt make any sense????????

Why?

I mean, I know why. I've played really bad :P. But I do want you to articulate specifically something.

[danex he/him]

2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Why?

I mean, I know why. I've played really bad :P. But I do want you to articulate specifically something.

Your interactions with araris D1
+
That weird thing with your ash vote last cycle
+
a heavy amount of gut
+
probably something else that I'm forgetting

[Mat he/him]

Just now, Danex said:

Your interactions with araris D1

Completely meaningless without an Araris flip

1 minute ago, Danex said:

That weird thing with your ash vote last cycle

I turned out to be right

1 minute ago, Danex said:

a heavy amount of gut

My favorite tool, it's served me well this game. Clearly.

[danex he/him]

Just now, Matrim's Dice said:

I turned out to be right

yeah that kinda makes it worse

like

you were a main supporter of the train for a while and then tried to jump off at the very end for some weird math reasons that dint make any sense

as if you were an elim and knew how ash would flip

[Mat he/him]

2 minutes ago, Danex said:

yeah that kinda makes it worse

like

you were a main supporter of the train for a while and then tried to jump off at the very end for some weird math reasons that dint make any sense

as if you were an elim and knew how ash would flip

Pshhh the math reason made total sense. To me.

I want to explain it again but that won't make it better .-.

Well, what I can argue is that being right was exactly something that made me paranoid about TJ, and he flipped green. Villagers can be right too.

Edit: And I didn't jump off because I necessarily suspected ash any less, just that what I saw made it decently obvious to me that ash would flip village. So it was a weird moment of I still read you as elim but also know you're village. Like me rereading Mage still as elim post-flip.

Edited November 2, 2021 by Matrim's Dice

[danex he/him]

1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Pshhh the math reason made total sense. To me.

I want to explain it again but that won't make it better .-.

Well, what I can argue is that being right was exactly something that made me paranoid about TJ, and he flipped green. Villagers can be right too.

i mean yeah

but like

you were supporting the train the entire cycle

and then nothing changed at all except for lahilt adding their vote

and suddenly you're off 

like

thats sus

what's your current read of Lahilt anyway

[Mat he/him]

Just now, Danex said:

i mean yeah

but like

you were supporting the train the entire cycle

and then nothing changed at all except for lahilt adding their vote

and suddenly you're off 

like

thats sus

what's your current read of Lahilt anyway

It's not sus if you understand why I moved

I really want to try to explain this to you again xD

Dead doc, does anyone understand this? Please can I make sense to anyone else?

My current read of Lahilt is a paranoiac village. But still village. But they're still in my team guesses. Because I don't know.

(Also, see my edit to my above post)

[Araris Valerian he/him]

56 minutes ago, Danex said:

like what if he's elim

Then elim!Archer is great at coming up with almost the exact same reads list as village!me, which is kind of worrying. That's kind of the only thing I have his as village for, but it's pretty significant and also this is a short game, so there's not much to go on. 

[Mat he/him]

Hey @Danex if you're village then you should unvote me because we lose if you don't

(More Mat Math :D)

The only way that my exe doesn't get hammered by the elims at rollover is if both are already voting me. Somehow I don't see Araris/Archer as a team, and I don't think you do either. So if you're village and stay on me, we lose.

(@Archer also could unvote to stop this :P. Technically also Araris but I think he's elim)

Point being that if there are two villagers voting me, that's game over. Currently I think there are exactly that.

I feel bad for Mage now lol. Cause now I'm the one using circular reasoning. Sorry :P.

[---]

VC:

Mat (3): Araris, Archer, Danex
Araris (1): Mat

Day ends in an hour.

[danex he/him]

5 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Hey @Danex if you're village then you should unvote me because we lose if you don't

eh

the thing is

i think you're elim

and the more I think about it

the more I think you're elim

so I don't think i'll be doing that

@Azmine_king
@Lahilt
Wanna vote for mat somebody plz
turn ends in an hour
we don't have a majority

[Mat he/him]

1 minute ago, Danex said:

eh

the thing is

i think you're elim

and the more I think about it

the more I think you're elim

so I don't think i'll be doing that

Then we lose /shrug I tried

[Lahilt he/him]

I will vote for Araris 

Edited November 2, 2021 by Lahilt
Storms, I did not realize we are so close to end of day. do not know if this did any good

[danex he/him]

Just now, Lahilt said:

I will vote for Araris 

cycle's over as of 6 minutes ago, even though illwei hasn't said so yet =P
so this vote does nothing
i mean
I guess it would've done nothing anyway
but
yeah

[Lahilt he/him]

I looked at the times after I posted, I did not realize rollover was so soon

[---]

hahah!!! cycle is over!! ahahah!!

[---]

 - Night 4 -

There was no removal

Matrim's Dice (3): Araris, Archer, Danex
Araris (1): Matrim's Dice

Not voting: Azmine_King, Lahilt

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Night 4 has started, and will end in 24 hours, on Wednesday, November 3rd at 4PM PST

• Days are 48 hours long and Nights are 24. 
• There is an activity filter of 2 Turns (One cycle.)
• There are NO PMs.
• The Elims may communicate in their doc.

Player List:

Spoiler

1. @Araris Valerian - Tresspasser's will

2. @Archer - Spren 10

3. ashwastaken - Oak - Loyal Honor Spren

4. @Azmine_king

5. @Danex

6. @Lahilt - Lahilt

7. Mage - Therla - Loyal Honor Spren

8. @Matrim's Dice - Phrylsena

9. Tani - Loyal Honor Spren

10. TJ - Fiorlan - Loyal Honor Spren

11. The Unknown Order - Loyal Honor Spren

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Hmm, based on Lahilt’s last posts, I’d guess that he’s not elim. Elim!Lahilt would have voted for Mat if Mat was village, and just abstained if he was teammates with Mat. Which means that maybe Mat is village as well. Gotta spend some time thinking and hope it doesn’t go to waste.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Araris Valerian

[Mat he/him]

At least the game is still going :P.

I’m near-certain Lahilt is village now. There is no point in elim!them leaving me alive, absolutely none.

That kinda begs the question of why someone else didn’t hammer me though. I guess I’m at an Araris/Az team with me being alive because of Az’s inactivity but it also could be Araris/Danex or Danex/Az. Or Araris/Archer or Danex/Archer but I really do still think Archer is vil…

So I have a PoE of three (Araris/Az/Danex) with an elim count of two. As far as sheer odds go, I’ve seen much worse. Shame for the small fact that I’m likely not going to be able to de-tunnel anyone :P.

(Ninja’d by Araris)

Edit: Nah ignore my pessimistic view; we got this!

I’m 90% sure the entire team is one of these (ordered by my personal assignment of likelihood):

• Araris/Az
• Araris/Danex
• Az/Danex

I think everyone else should do something similar in coming up with a list like this. It’d be nice to have some sort of an idea about our next move before it happens, right?

Edited November 3, 2021 by Matrim's Dice