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18 hours ago, The Stick said:

Another thing I have been considering at length is if this would be the end of all disease. We know Progression isn't too great at healing disease. However, we do know that enough Breaths(I forget the amount) can cure all diseases, as we saw with Vienna. The question is that do these diseases return after the breath is taken away. Because otherwise, doctors could theoretically treat every disease just by infusing someone with a few hundred breaths, then taking them back a few seconds later.

Buying hundreds of Breaths to get rid of an illness seems like a very expensive thing. Sure they might get cheaper in the future, especially if you can exchange investiture, but buying/borrowing an unkeyed Goldmind or a Progression Fabrial seems like a much cheaper alternative.

23 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Frost seems to be quite influential, having a palace, a throne and personal priests. You are raising an important question. Who dared put his niece in shackles? Do dragons have a government powerful enough to do that? If so, what was important enough to antagonize Frost?

I actually thought that it was Frost that exiled her for some reason. Knowing how strictly non-interventionist Frost is, Starling might have been pushed by Hoid to do something with which Frost might not agree. Something drastic, which influenced politics on a greater scale and possibly against dragon’s traditions, so other dragons would want to exile her and Frost agreed with them.

23 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

How come they have prejudices about dragons? Does that mean that Yolen has come out of seclusion?

Dragons exist outside of Yolen. One only needs to look at Xisis on Lumar to know how many different stories about dragons might exist across Cosmere.

23 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Why does Xisis sink low enough to own a ship crewed with misfits?

Dragons are entrepreneurs, they have businesses, own companies etc. I bet Xisis is exploiting the fact that he recently acquired a skilled captain, so why not use her to run him merchant errands across Cosmere? But the choice of crewmembers is interesting.

23 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

And even more fundamental, why has the avatar not reacted to Scadrians enroaching on the autonomy of First of the Sun?

If Scadrians have a way to deal with Avatars (they kind of dealt with Trell already), then it makes sense why Patji would sit quietly. If not then that's a good question. But I think the answer is simple - he sent Dusk. Patji might have put Dusk in a position to help.

17 hours ago, Nesh said:

I simply meant that Hoidtaking Starling as an apprentice mighr have been, or led to the event that got Starling banished.

I agree, I think Hoid is partially responsible for that.

2 hours ago, The flying spider said:

I guess this would explain why Xisis is in such a bad situation.

DId I miss something from the reading where it said Xisis is in a bad position? I didn't get that. Sure, the ship is old and junky, Xisis owns it, but Starling also said it's her ship. So if someone is in debt, I bet they're indebted to Xisis, risking becoming his slaves - not all as Aditil can just leave, or the Sleepless who was chosen by Hoid and it's there temporarily.

10 hours ago, The Stick said:

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I do very much believe that there is a possibility that the entirety of Canticle is just one giant metal mind. Maybe because the people perceive the Invested sunlight as heat-like, and it is so important to their culture, their cognitive perception could make the investiture automatically store as heat. I do think that like Marsh suddenly deciding to draw on a whole planet worth of attribute would be really cool. What would the theoretical things you could do with a small planet full of an attribute?

 

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10 hours ago, Treamayne said:

Hope that helps

This does help a lot. Thanks.

7 hours ago, bmcclure7 said:

 Exactly the second form is slave form I mentioned it already.   All  Other forms are in the neuter gender  And Therefore infertle.  My point still stands. 

"Several forms are different in terms of being asexual, including Slaveform" - not only Slaveform is different (important note: asexuality means not feeling a sexual attraction, but such a person is still fully capable of having kids). And "Matefore isn't the only one capable of reproducing, it's specialization" - the WoB clearly states that many forms are capable of having children, even if some of them don't feel any sexual attraction. Mateform is the most specialized form for reproduction, but others are also capable of doing it, just like other forms can swing a sword, not just Warform. 

3 hours ago, Etedbert said:

Another piece of evidence is the effect large quantities of investiture has on a spiritual web

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We see that Nomad’s time holding the Dawnshard has irrevocably twisted his spirit web to be in-line with the intent of the Dawnshard, giving him the “Torment”

basically, I think that a shard’s child would (in addition to being highly invested) inherit aspects of their parent’s spiritual DNA. I think they would be in some way bound to the same shardic intent as their parent. I.E. if Honor had a child, they would be committed strongly to the same ideals as their father.

Well, Shardic Intent is not writing itself onto the Spirit Web of the Vessel, it is just influencing their mind. If a Vessel were to drop their Shard, the influence of its Intent over their mind would eventually fade. But they will remain a Sliver, which is an expanded soul, and that might be inherited to some degree.

4 hours ago, Dofurion said:

There I was referring to the fact that the hair of the Rosharians works like that of cats, not going into issues of recessive and dominant, but rather that they come to present the colors of both parents at the same time.

You mean Adolin? He's half-Riran, thus has Iriali roots which might cause this since they have "inhuman ancestry" - WoB. Dalinar also has gray-black hair, but he's aging. I don't really remember who else is there with those two-colored hairs.

3 hours ago, robardin said:

And what's Dabbid's deal in never becoming a squire, either? Because he wouldn't speak aloud, he couldn't Speak the Words?

Speaking the Words isn't a necessity, you must mean them and live by them - Eshonai was unable to speak the Words when she died drowning in water, but she meant it, she lived them in that moment, she spoke them in her mind and that was enough for the Stormfather to accept them. So there must be another reason for why he failed to become a Radiant. RoW ch 117:

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The Rhythm of Panic ruled her briefly as she was again submerged. [...]
Not Panic.
Not your rhythms.
I reject you.
My life. My death.
I WILL BE FREE. 
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YOU WERE RADIANT WHEN YOU DIED. YOU COULDN’T SAY THE WORDS, UNDER THE WATER, BUT I ACCEPTED THEM ANYWAY. HOW DO YOU THINK YOU SURVIVED THAT LONG WITHOUT BREATHING?

39 minutes ago, Block said:

Is it possible for a Shard to have a child? If a Shard had a child with another Shard would the child have the powers of a Shard? Would it create a whole new Shard? Or if a Shard had a child with a human, would it create a sort of "half-shard"? Does anyone know if there are any WoBs of this or something similar?

A Shard can create a physical body for himself so it's likely they can reproduce that way. A child would not become a "half-shard," or a new Shard, nor would they inherit their parent Shard, but it might be easier for them to Ascend when opportunity arises, as they might have a very strong Connection to that Shard. It's likely they would be more invested than normal people, maybe even become a weird type Sliver.

This last WoB makes me think of this one particular person that is called "a child of Tanavast" - there is a significance to this title, so maybe Honor was more involved than normally. It doesn't have to mean that he’s literally the biological father, but as per other WoBs posted before, a greater investment in Kal might have made him a spiritual child of Tanavast.

1 hour ago, bmcclure7 said:

good theroy but wrong only mate form and slave form are fertile we have wobs say as much

Not true:

11 hours ago, Dofurion said:

So since in each book we are receiving recontextualization of the origins of humanity in Roshar, it occurred to me to think about what other plot twist there could be on this topic in the following books, and what occurred to me is that current humans do belong to Roshar, or at least the current humans.

A future plot twist? That was already revealed in RoW, that's known and accepted by now. Navani heard the pure tone of Honor proving she is a child of Roshar, that she belongs to Roshar just as Singers do. RoW ch 76:

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“We can hear them because we are the children of Roshar,” Raboniel said. “You are not.”
“I’ve lived here all my life,” Navani said. “I’m as much a child of this planet as you are.”
“Your ancestors were from another realm.”
“I’m not speaking of my ancestors,” Navani said, strapping the sheath on so the flats of the gemstones touched her arm. “I’m speaking of myself.”
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She could feel them now, cool but warming to her touch. Infused gemstones always had a tempest inside. Was there a sound to them too? A vibration …
Could she hear it in there? The tone, the rhythm? With Raboniel singing, she thought she could. She matched that tone, and felt something on her arm. The gemstones reacting—or rather the Stormlight inside reacting.
There was a beat to it. One that Raboniel’s rhythm only hinted at. Navani could sing the tone and feel the gemstones respond. It was like having a stronger singer beside her—she could adapt her voice to match. The Stormlight itself guided her—providing a control, with a beat and rhythm

RoW ch 110:

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“Honor…” Navani whispered. “Honor is not … dead. He lives inside the hearts … of his children.…”
Does he? Truly? It seemed a plea, not a challenge.
Does he? Navani searched deep. Was what she’d been doing honorable? Creating fabrials? Imprisoning spren? Could she really say that? Odium’s tone rang in her ears, though she’d stopped humming its inverse.
Then, a pure song. Rising up from within her. Orderly, powerful. Had she done harm without realizing it? Possibly. Had she made mistakes? Certainly. But she’d been trying to help. That was her journey. A journey to discover, learn, and make the world better.
Honor’s song welled up inside her, and she sang it

12 hours ago, Dofurion said:

Now, this is the panorama we currently know as readers, but something still does not fit. For example, we have the dance organized between singers and humans in which Hoid participated, the existence of the Unkalaki and the Herdazians as human/singer hybrids among several other things that indicate that humans had more mobility in the continent and that not the Singers were not so restrictive with their territory as not to perminate humans in it.

Both of those things could have happened during Desolations, there were humans that were fighting on Odium's side.Intermixing of species could have happened in between Deoslations. Those two things don't really say anything and it's not important if humans belong to Roshar or not - you can throw a party for your newly arrived guests, can't you?

12 hours ago, Dofurion said:

So what do I propose? Simple, Sanderson has been diverting attention with the WoBs of the Unkalakis and in reality all the humans of Roshar are descendants of the Singers (Except the Shin and the Irilai), that would further explain the hair issue in Roshar among other things.

Fine points:

My argument is that humans have indeed inherited characteristics from the Singers, only that these characteristics are qualified according to the shape in which the Singer was when granting the child.
In the case of the Unkalaki, their ancestors would be Singers in work form (Gravitationspren), which could also explain their relationship with Cultivation (Remembering that their pure tone is the one that sounds when acquiring this form).
From the above we could speculate that the Herdazians are descendants of Singers who were in the form that the Reachers' cousin Spren will grant, given that if we assume that all (or most) of the Spren that make up the Shradplate grant forms we could also speculate that these shapes have some other characteristic related to the elements that surround the Radiants, and given that there is a body focus such as the nails... Herdazians.
And while the above is already speculation, it may then be that the reason why the Rosharians have the issue with hair is that they are mostly descendants of the Singers with the form given by the Spren cousins of the Mistspren (Here for me , it would be super convenient if it were for those who are in the Mateform since they should be the ones who would be most conducive to reproducing with humans, but the essences do not fit).

 

In summary, I consider that this may be one of the revelations of the fifth book since we will go to Shinovar, that humans today do belong both metaphorically and literally to Roshar.

While I think it's possible for Singer's DNA to be present in Rosharan humans, I don't think it would be relevant in any way, or be a plot twist - just like all humans on Earth have a tiny bit of Neanderthal DNA it doesn't mean that we are direct descendants of Neanderthals. We're not, Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals just intermixed a few times and this was later carried by blood to the rest. Instead of humanity being direct descendants of one of the Singers's form (which I find unlikely as there would be some unique physical characteristics pointing at it and I find none, I don't know what do you mean with "Rosharans have issue with hair"), I think it's more like some Horneaters or Herdazians, who are direct descendants of Singers, have children with normal humans, which seeded and diffused their Singers DNA in human population, which over time became a tiny, inconsequential bit. 

15 hours ago, Quantus said:

there's been no evidence of ANY requirements placed on squires beyond having some emotional Connection to an actual Radiant.

Really? To become a squire you need to be fit for the order, OB ch 46:

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“I don’t know, Skar,” she finally said, lowering the stone. “I keep thinking, maybe I don’t belong here. If you haven’t noticed, none of the women have managed this. I kind of forced my way among you all, and nobody asked—”
“Stop,” he said, taking the emerald and holding it before her again. “Stop right there. You want to be a Windrunner?”
“More than anything,” she whispered.
“Why?”
“Because I want to soar.”
“Not good enough. Kaladin, he wasn’t thinking about being left out, or how great it would be to fly. He was thinking about saving the rest of us. Saving me. Why do you want to be in the Windrunners?”
“Because I want to help! I want to do something other than stand around, waiting for the enemy to come to us!” “
Well, you have a chance, Lyn. A chance nobody has had for ages, a chance in millions. Either you seize it, and in so doing decide you’re worthy, or you leave and give up.” He pressed the gemstone back down into her hand. “But if you leave, you don’t get to complain. As long as you keep trying, there’s a chance. When you give up? That’s when the dream dies.”
She met his eyes, closed her fist around the gemstone, and breathed in with a sharp, distinct breath.
Then started glowing

15 hours ago, Quantus said:

They have no Idals of their own, no Oaths to break,

They all begin by swearing or living by the First Ideal:

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“The first step will be to speak the Ideal,” Kaladin said. “I suspect a few of you have already said it. But for the rest, if you wish to be a squire to the Windrunners, you will need to swear it.” They began belting out the words.
Everyone knew the right ones by now. Lunamor whispered the Ideal.
Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination.

However as I was digging through WoBs I found this one:

So you have a point, it's possible for a squire to become a knight of a different order. But I still believe a squire needs to live by the First Ideal to be a squire in the first place - for an animal even with an increased intelligence, understanding such abstract concepts might be a bit too much.

15 hours ago, Quantus said:

So if a full Radiant views the Ryshadium as an equal member of their Crew (totally believable based on the relationships we've seen, and also standard Horse People beliefs),

It doesn't work like this. A knight believing a person is a part of their "crew" isn't enough, a knight doesn't give powers on command. No matter how hard Kaladin wanted Rlain to become a Windrunner's squire it simply didn't work, Rlain wasn't fitted for that. A squire candidate must be qualified and that's what's the most important.

10 hours ago, The Stick said:

In summary, I thought this was an interesting little theory and I am interested to hear thoughts.

P.S. Alder, please don't slam me with 20 WoB's

No slamming today, I agree.

12 hours ago, Chinsukolo said:

80 is a REALLY specific number, and also not the large compared to the implied number of blades in world, and the implied number of dead eyes moving towards a specific location in RoW.

It's also been a long time since i read StormLight (Rhythm of War release)... where did you find such a specific deceleration, i cant recall seeing it for the life of me, is there a WOB out there?

The Feverstone Keep vision, WoK ch 52:

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The scout outside backed his horse up. There looked to be a good two hundred Shardbearers out there. Alethkar owned some twenty Blades, Jah Keved a similar number. If one added up all the rest in the world, there might be enough total to equal the two powerful Vorin kingdoms. That meant, so far as he knew, there were less than a hundred Blades in all of the world. And here he saw two hundred Shardbearers gathered in one army. It was mind-numbing.

Yes, the amount of known blades in the world is at least 3 times lower than the 300 blades (and plates) left at the Feverstone Keep. During the False Desolation there were 2000 Honorspren, all killed by Recreance. There should be hundreds, if not thousands of blades on Roshar of every type of Radiant True Spren. We don't know where they are. Many spren would not have been turned into Shardblades (their bonds were broken when they weren't summoned as blades for example - they remain deadeye in CR), some might have been lost to Highstorms or be buried under crem, but I think there should be hundreds of hidden blades somewhere. I personally believe that Shins have collected many Shardblades to keep them hidden just like Honorblades and their invasions of Roshar were just a cover up to steal Shardblades from the west. 

59 minutes ago, The Sneaky Kandra said:

If a Knight Radiant squire stored their ability to use stormlight into a nicrosil metalmind would they be able to draw stormlight when away from their Knight Radiant?

I think that's more of a Connection issue than ability - it's similar to Elantrians getting weaker further away from Elantris which can be overcomed by tapping Connection from a Duraluminmind. Both Radiant squires and Elantrians are bound by proximity to their source of power.

1 hour ago, Arkangel said:

From the reading:

This makes it sound like the Scadrians are skeptical of the local religion, clearly finding it laughable. They may not know that Patji is a Shard (or part of one in this case). You'd think, at this point, they'd take more stock in religion as they've had a few based around real magical entities.

What if they no longer consider Avatars and Shards as gods anymore, or they have their ways of dealing with them and opposing them? Patji even as an Avatar might not be a challenge to them in the future (Anti-Investiture might kill him up for example).

50 minutes ago, Dofurion said:

There is also the possibility that Patji has never finished forming, that is, that no one has yet ascended to be the avatar as such

No, he was the one who responded to Hoid's 2nd letter from OB. Patji has been a fully formed Avatar for a while now.

15 minutes ago, Etedbert said:

BAM is then of enough prominence in the False Desolation that everyone on both sides adopts the name change quickly, possibly assuming that’s who she always was.

Again, the name change doesn't work because Listeners knew her as BAM in their songs and because they abandoned Odium before Aharietiam, she must have had her full name even back then. 

8 hours ago, Etedbert said:

However we know Mercy was at the fight with Odium and Ambition, and that Mercy was injured at the least.

We don't know that. We know Mercy fought at the Threnodite System, we don't know on which side, we don't know if she was wounded, we only know Harmony finds her worrying. I personally believe she fought on Odium's side, trying to kill Ambition as an act of twisted mercy.

7 hours ago, Etedbert said:

He had 4 by the time he gets to Roshar, and after splintering Honor, creates a 5th unmade out of a large splinter of Honor, a larger splinter of himself, and a Fused priestess, making BAM.

The timeline doesn't fit. BAM was present before the False Desolation, before Honor was Splintered. She was present in previous Desolations, acting as Odium's general. She existed long before Honor was Splintered. OB ch 106 epigraphs:

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"I find Ba-Ado-Mishram to be the most interesting of the Unmade. She is said to have been keen of mind, a highprincess among the enemy forces, their commander during some of the Desolations. I do not know how this relates to the ancient god of the enemy, named Odium."

Mishram is also named in Listener's songs and the Last Legion abandoned Odium most likely before Aharietiam. That means she existed in previous Desolations. RoW ch 73:

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“Perhaps they knew what Ba-Ado-Mishram was going to do, and so they attuned Wisdom, not Betrayal, in their actions.”
She knew the name, of course. As a keeper of songs, she knew the names of all nine Unmade—who were among the gods her people swore to never follow again.

8 hours ago, Etedbert said:

Re-Shephir = Ambition (I feel like there’s a WOB somwhere where Brandon got tight lipped after someone asked about R-S being connected to Ambition in some way. R-S also has this drive to mimic human violence, possibility mimicking violent ambition)

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8 hours ago, Etedbert said:

Yelig-Nar = Devotion (I mean eating a storming sphere has got to be a pretty hefty show of devotion to whoever’s asking you to do it. Otherwise I don’t have a lot of evidence for this one. Y-N is a weird one since he has two names but we never hear him really talk on his own or hear his thoughts or anything)

Another interesting connection is that Devotion's invested art is Dakhor and Dakhor monks' bodies are twisted to gain power - just like hosts of Yelig-Nar have their body twisted. 

8 hours ago, Etedbert said:

anyways please poke holes in this, and again, I’m happy to find quotes or WOBs if anyone is curious about my wild conjecture

It's an interesting theory. While the timeline of BAM doesn't fit I still think this reasoning is worth following - maybe the length of their names reflects how much investiture of other Shards are combined in that Unmade? Re-Shephir would be made out of 2 Shards+Odium, BAM out of 3+Odium and the last one to get added to Mishram was part of Honor's investiture, just before the False Desolation? This explains both why she existed before Aharietiam and why she suddenly was able to start a new Desolation - because she got an infusion of Honor's investiture. But the problem with that is that Venli knows her from Listener's songs as Ba-Ado-Mishram, so that was her name long before the False Desolation - so maybe Honor is totally unrelated to Unmades and they are all made out of Splinters of Dominion, Devotion and Ambition, and all 9 came with him on Roshar in the form we know them today?

Either way I think you might be onto something. 

9 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

Kaladin sees Azure fighting with her cloak around her arm.  In my mind I always pictured a shield but I am not convinced an awakened cloak could make a decent one... if she were an stoneward I would for sure assume that was it.  

As an awakener what do you suppose she was actually doing with that?  Is it a new command or was it more of a strengthen this..  or even used to grab and parry enemy strikes?  

I really need to reread that section again. 

She did something like this - RoW ch 15:

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Zahel came in from Kaladin’s other side, and Kaladin barely turned in time, swinging his Blade. Zahel deflected the strike with his arm, which he’d wrapped with cloth. In his other hand he carried a long scarf that he whipped forward, catching Kaladin’s off hand and wrapping it with shocking tightness, like a coiling whip.
Zahel pulled, yanking Kaladin off balance. Kaladin maintained his feet, barely, and lunged with a one-handed strike. Zahel again deflected the strike with his cloth-wrapped arm. That sort of tactic would never have worked against a real Shardblade, but it could be surprisingly effective against ordinary swords. New recruits were often surprised at how well a nice thick cloth could stop a blade.
Zahel still had Kaladin’s off hand wrapped in the scarf, which he heaved, spinning Kaladin around.
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Zahel’s hands became a blur as he pushed the sword to the side with his stretched-out scarf, then twisted his hands around, neatly wrapping the scarf around the sword. That gave him leverage to push the sword farther away as he stepped into Kaladin’s lunge and slid his makeshift wrapping along the length of the Blade, coming in close. Here, he somehow twisted his cloths around to wrap Kaladin’s wrists as well. Kaladin tried a head-butt, but Zahel stepped into the move and raised one side of the scarf—letting Kaladin’s head go underneath it. With a twirl and a twist, Zahel completely tied Kaladin in the scarf. How long was that thing?
The exchange left Kaladin with not only his hands tied tightly, but a scarf now holding his arms pinned to his sides, Zahel standing behind him. Kaladin couldn’t see what Zahel did next, but it involved sending a loop of scarf up over Kaladin’s head and around his neck. Zahel pulled tight, choking off Kaladin’s air.
I think we’re losing, Syl said. To a guy wielding something he found in Adolin’s sock drawer.
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Zahel snatched a sheet off the fluttering lines, twisting it and wrapping it into a tight length, like a cord. Kaladin rubbed his neck.
“I think … I think I have seen this style before. You fight like Azure does.”
“She fights like me, boy.”

10 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

Even moving with a 20-50% extra boost to physical speed is a sizable edge in combat, but the true upper bound of steel Feruchemy (with no other supporting powers) is something like Mach 5 at sea level. 

I'm pretty sure running anywhere close to Mach 1 for a bit longer would kill you - you don't have to catch fire to be dead, just just have to run fast enough to heat up to deadly temperatures. Your body can't function at 50 degrees C, it would just kill you. Concorde was flying at Mach 2 and it was heated up to 120 degrees C. That's death for a human. Sure, Steelrunners can run fast, maybe reach low-Mach speeds for a very short moment, but doing that for longer would just kill them - without catching fire.

10 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

That's 3,836 miles per hour, and since the fastest person who's ever been recorded ran about 27.5 mph (and only briefly at that), you can Tap your steel to become 139.5 times faster than him. . .

Good luck storing enough attribute to tap that much speed. It would take you years to store that much to run for just a second. I'm quite sure @therunner once made a fancy equation to calculate how much attribute a Steelrunner needs to tap with diminishing returns and to get to Mach 1 you need a lot. 

10 hours ago, Bluepanther512 said:

I don't think this is OP. For running in a straight line, yes, this is OP. But realistically the second you try to turn going too fast you are going to double the amount of bones in your legs at best.

The magic of Feruchemy would protect you from that.

9 hours ago, Through The Living Glass said:

Okay, so from the Stormlight Archive and this WoB we know that when outside Investiture corrupts a different type of Investiture, it turns red.

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Roger

As I understand it, red is a sign of corruption in the cosmere. I just reread The Emperor's Soul, and it mentioned wisps of red smoke when Shai tests the Soulstamps. Does this mean she is corrupting Gaotona's soul?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, that is what that means. Corruption doesn't have to have the negative connotation, right? Basically, it means an outside influence is changing the Spiritual nature of the soul. And, yeah, that's exactly what is happening right there. Now, I would call that a pretty good thing, but... like, all of those things, where she is playing with someone's soul, and changing it, and changing their past, and things like this. This is, by cosmere definition, corrupting someone's soul. That's expressly what it is.

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And so corruption is not directly associated with Odium, but corruption of any kind from any Shard, right?

So it would be possible for, say, Honor or Cultivation to corrupt spren from a different Shard, correct?

Yes and yes. Any Shard can corrupt investiture and it could manifest as red. 

There are two examples of non-red corrupted investiture - Nightblood which leaks corrupted investiture as black smoke and Midnight Essence which is also something corrupted but is black. But most times corrupted investiture is just red - no matter what Shard corrupts it. 

8 hours ago, hwiles said:

I would argue that Honor would probably have an excruciatingly difficult time committing any act of corruption due to the aspect of the process which requires that one forcibly alter another against their express will by insertion of technically uninvited investiture...I suspect the holder might Splinter themselves if they even tried. Recall: the Heralds were volunteers.

Disagree. Sja-Anat also corrupts spren and she is doing it only when True Spren agree to it, she isn't forcefull. Honor can do the same - if that even would be a problem for Honor. He is about bonds and oaths, he would have a problem with corrupting only if that would violate one of his oaths (well, like any Shard tbf) and for that he would have to make one. I think he is fully capable of corrupting, nothing in his Intent would prevent that. Preservation on the other hand might be a different story.

15 hours ago, Unholy Truth said:

To be clear about your comment when it says, "direct control" Is it saying he can tell spren "X" go bond with this person (assuming they are compatible with skybreakers) and the spren would have no say?

Not like that. A person must prove himself to a spren - Szeth was chosen by his Highspren, as far as we know Nale didn't order any Highspren to bond him. Not everyone is fit to become a Skybreaker. Direct control means "let's fight on Odium's side now." Nale just holds a thigh grip on the entire order of Skybreakers and is respectable enough that other Highspren just listen to him. Highspren just are a bit weird compared to other spren, and this WoB said Nals's spren is somewhat responsible for how he is behaving:

27 minutes ago, Argenti said:

I thought Tin savants were sensitive to it, they just got used to it and started to ignore it all. It has been A while since I read about Spook though.

When burning they are extra sensitive, but without tin they are numb and everything is dull to them. It was so bad that Spook wasn't able to even feel his body burning. HoA ch 19:

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Yet, everything else felt muddy. He couldn't quite manage to think. He blinked, groaning quietly. What was wrong with him? His spectacles and cloth were gone. That should have left him free to see, but everything was so dark.
He was out of tin.
There was nothing burning in his stomach. The familiar flame, a comforting candle within, was no longer there. It had been his companion for over a year, always there. He'd feared what he was doing, but had never let it die. And now it was gone.
That was why everything seemed so dull. Was this really how other people lived? How he used to live? He could barely see—the sharp, rich detail he'd grown accustomed to was gone. The vibrant colors and crisp lines. Instead, everything was bland and vague.
His ears felt clogged. His nose . . . he couldn't smell the boards beneath him, couldn't tell the species of wood by scent. He couldn't smell the bodies that had passed. He couldn't feel the thumpings of people moving about in other rooms.
[...]
His arms were so numb they felt like weights tied to his shoulders. He'd been flaring tin so long that normal senses just didn't seem to work for him anymore.

HoA ch 59:

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The mists tickled his cheeks. In the cacophony, Spook had let his tin dim, relieving him of sensation, leaving him feeling blissfully numb. It was better that way.
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Spook approached the flames. His breathing grew forced, and his skin grew hot. The fire was bright—consuming. He dashed right for it. Then, at the moment when the pain became too great, he extinguished his tin.
And became numb.
It happened just as it had before, when he had been trapped in the building without any metals. Flaring tin for so long had expanded his senses, but now that he wasn't burning it at all, those same senses became dull. His entire body grew deadened, lacking feeling or sensation.
He burst through the doorway into the building, flames raining around him.
His body burned. But, he couldn't feel the flames, and the pain could not drive him back. The fire was bright enough that even his weakened eyes could still see. He dashed forward, ignoring fire, heat, and smoke.

Pewter Savants don't feel pain when burning pewter, that's why they die so often before becoming Savants, tin Savants feel everything too much when burning tin, but almost nothing when they don't. I propose pewter Savants would be extremely sensitive to touch and pain when they don't burn pewter - the opposite of tin Savants.

10 hours ago, Lego Mistborn said:

I was reading through a scene from the early drafts of TWoK (I think, I don't know all that much about the Sanderson Curiosities) and I came to the realization that stones are probably sacred as a reminder/outgrowth of staying out of singer land. The only place that isn't just stone is shin, which is where the humans were supposed to stay when they came to Roshar.

Has this been confirmed and has this been discussed by the community before.

There is no confirmation yet (maybe in KoWT) but that's a popular theory that makes a lot of sense. 

10 hours ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said:

Do you suppose Vivennas blade has a similar life sense?  

It seems so. It's heavily invested, self-aware and it senses people at least through touch. But it really depends on how differently this blade was made from Nightblood. OB ch 108:

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“Draw her carefully,” Azure said to Borea, the first mate, as Shallan approached. “Don’t pull her out all the way—she doesn’t know you.”
Borea wore a uniform like the captain’s, all stiff and no-nonsense. She undid a small latch on the Shardblade, eased it from its sheath a half inch, then drew in a sharp breath. “It … tingles.”
“She’s investigating you,” Azure said.