Stormfather vs Stormfaker, the arguments collected: Granted:  I don't think anyone is arguing that Gavilar never interacted with Stormfather, and in the Stormfaker theory, it's even possible that the Stormfather is partially responsible for some, but not all of what Gavilar experiences in the Prologue in his name.   Arguments for Stormfaker: Stormfather never manifests in the rest of the books except as a face that is nearly infinitely expansive.  The being that manifests to Ga