StrikerEZ he/him Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Elandera said: I think it was more of a statement in regards to the enjoyment of the game as a whole. Getting rid of an entire faction D1 is a bit bittersweet. Great that we caught a threat and are one step closer to our win-con, but a bit disappointing that an entire part of the game, especially one which causes so much intrigue as a conversion, is gone so early. Yeah, this is what I meant by that. I think it’s great to find an elim super early because it helps us win, but it is a bittersweet because that means that that player didn’t even get to spend much time scheming. Also, I think I’m gonna just vote on TGK in order to secure a lynch. Voting on anyone else doesn’t make sense at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kynedath Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said: Yeah, this is what I meant by that. I think it’s great to find an elim super early because it helps us win, but it is a bittersweet because that means that that player didn’t even get to spend much time scheming. Also, I think I’m gonna just vote on TGK in order to secure a lynch. Voting on anyone else doesn’t make sense at this point. Hmm, this strikes me as suspicious. You haven't really been adding too much to the conversation this cycle. Last cycle you had plenty of thoughts and questions and points to add, but this cycle you adressed your thoughts on TGK in your first post, and this post you defend yourself and just jump on a bandwagon. Yeah, it's a huge bandwagon and almost surely going to go through, but it almost seems like you're hiding behind it so that you can vote and make a small impression this cycle without drawing attention to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shqueeves he/him Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 I am not a fan of the voting on TGK, though I do understand where it's coming from. I am willing to bet that the Smedry has a kill ability. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the Knights can't kill, only convert. A Trouble Magnet didn't die, and that was the only known role that could kill. Assuming that Elkanah was the only Knight (an unfounded assumption) we need to prioritize finding the Smedry as soon as possible. I'm going to be completely honest, I have no idea where to even begin with identifying them. I'd do an analysis, but I'm a little short on time today, so I probably won't be on again until tomorrow sometime. Sorry for silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ he/him Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kynedath said: Hmm, this strikes me as suspicious. You haven't really been adding too much to the conversation this cycle. Last cycle you had plenty of thoughts and questions and points to add, but this cycle you adressed your thoughts on TGK in your first post, and this post you defend yourself and just jump on a bandwagon. Yeah, it's a huge bandwagon and almost surely going to go through, but it almost seems like you're hiding behind it so that you can vote and make a small impression this cycle without drawing attention to yourself. I haven’t been adding much because I can’t think of anything to add. If one of my PM contacts would be okay with revealing our PM, they could confirm that I’d mentioned voting on TGK either yesterday morning or this morning. I didn’t do it when I said I would because I saw his posts and started feeling bad for him, but I decided to just stick with my guns. I don’t see any other good options for a lynch and I don’t have the mental energy to try and find one. Plus I don’t think there’s gonna be much use in trying to redirect this bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_God_King Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 final thoughts: people I trust - no one People I’m suspicious of - straw, Coda, striker, Elandera people I’m neutral on - joe, experience if i didn’t mention someone (which is a majority) it’s because I don’t have an educated opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson she/her Posted April 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 The turn has ended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbereth she/her Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) LG64: Night 2 - An International Incident The God King was a Librarian Curator! Vote CountGod King (6): God King, Joe, Kynedath, Straw, Striker, XinoExperience (1): Sart Striker (1): Experience Night 2 has begun and will end in 24 hours. Get your actions in! Player List Experience - Shard Straw - Straw Kidpen - Arthur Smedry A Joe in the Bush - Porona Candemic Coda - ? Striker - ? Kynedath - Bartholomew Prescot Elandera - Rainier Zillah - ? xinoehp512 - ? Ironfire - Liability Sart - ? Elkanah - Karen Crystal Knight Silimatic Engineer Fifth Scholar - Sergey Karjakin, Russian ambassador and secret adviser to the Secretary of Defense Librarian Transporter The God King - Frank Librarian Curator Shqueeves - ? Edited April 5, 2020 by Elbereth 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw he/him Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) @Elbereth I believe the press release that is currently in the writeup is an exact copy of the one from D2. Is it a mistake? Edited April 5, 2020 by Straw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbereth she/her Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Straw said: @Elbereth I believe the press release that is currently in the writeup is an exact copy of the one from D2. Is it a mistake? Yup. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experience he/him Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Not much to say except I told you so! I have a feeling that Elkanah is Calvin, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw he/him Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Given that the news report is dated before the actual press release, we either have a spy in the White House or some precognitive reporters. I propose that we investigate each of these possibilities, as they both seem rather important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironfire he/him Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Doesn't the press release say that "they may have found the person responsible", indicating that people had already known that the ambassador was dead? It doesn't see like there's anything precognitive about that...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw he/him Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, Ironfire said: Doesn't the press release say that "they may have found the person responsible", indicating that people had already known that the ambassador was dead? It doesn't see like there's anything precognitive about that...? The news report is dated 11:32 AM. The press release from D2 that announced the ambassador's death was at 12:00PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shqueeves he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 That is a worrisome death pattern, especially for myself and Sart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson she/her Posted April 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Turn is closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little wilson she/her Posted April 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 LG64: Day 3 - A Coolidge Interruption Sorry this took so long. There was a miscommunication between the GMs. I'm posting this now and El will add the writeup in in a bit. Joe was killed. He was a Librarian Jail-Breaker! The turn will end in ~46 hours. Player List Experience - Shard Straw - Straw Kidpen - Arthur SmedryA Joe in the Bush - Porona Candemic Coda - ? Striker - ? Kynedath - Bartholomew Prescot Elandera - Rainier Zillah - ? xinoehp512 - ? Ironfire - Liability Sart - ?Elkanah - KarenFifth Scholar - Sergey Karjakin, Russian ambassador and secret adviser to the Secretary of DefenseThe God King - ? Shqueeves - ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Quote That is a worrisome death pattern, especially for myself and Sart Shqueeves, what the heck is this post? It sounds like you knew Joe would be the next murder victim, which is only possible if you are the Smedry. @Shqueeves would you mind responding to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sart said: Shqueeves, what the heck is this post? It sounds like you knew Joe would be the next murder victim, which is only possible if you are the Smedry. @Shqueeves would you mind responding to this? I think he was talking about the fact that the previous kills/lynches are all clustered on the player list. Edited April 6, 2020 by Straw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shqueeves he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Sart said: Shqueeves, what the heck is this post? It sounds like you knew Joe would be the next murder victim, which is only possible if you are the Smedry. @Shqueeves would you mind responding to this? Straw is right, just a lighthearted comment about how all previous deaths were in between us. What about my statement implied Joe as the next death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 So, there are currently 12 players in the game. I think there's only one Smedry, which brings us down to 11 people who are either librarians or knights. This means that the game state right now is one of the following: If there was another knight who successfully converted a librarian: x1 Smedry x2 Knights x9 Librarians If there was another knight who has not yet successfully converted a librarian: x1 Smedry x1 Knight x10 Librarians If there was no other knight: x1 Smedry x11 Librarians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experience he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 I think that the bottom one is the least likely, and it is probable that there was at least 2 knights to start the game. I don't know if we can tell if someone was converted or not though. Also, I'm pretty sure that it said there was only one smedry in the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, EXPERIENCE said: I think that the bottom one is the least likely, and it is probable that there was at least 2 knights to start the game. I don't know if we can tell if someone was converted or not though. I think that the top one is the most likely, as I doubt that the other knight failed to convert twice. In the case of the top scenario, the worst case scenario for the librarians would be as follows: N3: x1S x2K x8L D4: x1S x3K x6L N4: x1S x3K x5L D5: x1S x3K x4L N5: x1S x3K x3L D6: x1S x4K x1L N6: x1S x4K 11 minutes ago, EXPERIENCE said: Also, I'm pretty sure that it said there was only one smedry in the rules. It phrases it that way, but I don't believe it outright says it. I'll ask one of the GMs: @Elbereth can there be multiple people who are a Rogue Smedry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elandera she/her Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, EXPERIENCE said: I don't know if we can tell if someone was converted or not though. We are not informed. El confirmed that D1, I believe. It's past time we get more than one vote on the board. @Coda (Coda). I don't anything more than a gut read at the moment, so I apologise for that. I'll try tonight to go through and see if I can find what's causing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experience he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 StrikerEZ. Same reasons as day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart he/him Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 19 hours ago, Straw said: I think he was talking about the fact that the previous kills/lynches are all clustered on the player list. ...That would make more sense. Shqueeves. Moving on to other avenues of discussion, there are two points I want to make. The first concerns @Zillah They made an odd post that needs some investigating Quote I’m not entirely sure what to say at this point, I do agree with the analysis of God King, however their frustration and the guilt trip mechanism is making it hard to knowingly vote on them. One thing I did have as a note is the difference in their playstyle D1 this game as well as the last game I played with them. (Elkanah’s QF) They were very quiet and careful D1, and that game they flipped Elim. Edit: I did receive an anonymous message last night that indicates God King may have been lying about a PM with Elkanah. However unless two people could confirm that they have PM’s with God King from day one, I wouldn’t trust that message personally. Edit #2: This is likely all I’m going to be saying on God King, I’ll post my thoughts on the other players in a bit, I have to get some schooling stuff dealt with right now though. I'm curious as to the contents of this anonymous PM. What exactly about it indicated that God King was lying? Since we now know God King was telling the truth, I find it odd that anyone would like to try and implicate him further. The rules also state the Anonymous Contact could send a message to up to two players. Since that's the case, I would be curious if someone else also received the same anonymous message. Also, Zillah never followed up on this post with player analysis. Zillah until you contribute more, my vote is on you. The second point I would like to make concerns the identity of the Smedry. Namely, I believe that they have a role other than being a Smedry. This theory comes from the ruleset. The Lone Smedry is a faction, not a role. We also know that one of the Crystal Knights had a role to start with. I seriously doubt we have any vanilla players, and so I suspect that the Smedry is also not a vanilla player, with no role other than his faction ability. This leads me to a corollary point. I suspect that the Smedry is killing people outside of their PM group. It's harder to suspect people you have a PM with, so they may be intentionally leaving people they are chatting with alive. Plus, if they have a role outside of Smedry, that gives them targets for that role. In that vein, it might be prudent to reveal if you had a PM with a dead player. In my mind, that would lower your chance of being a Smedry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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